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All Forum Posts by: Bryant Sala

Bryant Sala has started 3 posts and replied 9 times.

Post: Re-fi a duplex out of an FHA

Bryant SalaPosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Anthony Freeman:
Quote from @Bryant Sala:

Hi everyone! I'm looking to re-fi my duplex out of an FHA so that we can re-use it on another small multifamily here in Cincinnati.

I've been told by a few lenders that since it's a duplex, I need 85% LTV to re-fi, which we don't quite have yet (closer to 11-12% LTV). Are there any lenders that can help us re-fi into a conventional product with less than 85% LTV?

Thanks again!

The lender wants you to have 15% equity before they refinance you?

Hey Anthony! Yup, from my understanding to re-fi out of a duplex under an FHA, traditional lender's ask for at least 15% equity (85% LTV).

Post: 1st Investment Property

Bryant SalaPosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 8

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $250,000
Cash invested: $19,000

1st investment. This is a duplex that my wife and I are house-hacking.

Post: Re-fi a duplex out of an FHA

Bryant SalaPosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Laura Shinkle:

@Bryant Sala that's awesome you found some local lenders willing to lend! I really didn't want you to give your low interest rate on that FHA loan either! lol


 LOL same! Thank you again to the BP community, always there when needed

Post: Re-fi a duplex out of an FHA

Bryant SalaPosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Mateo Oquendo-Chandler:
Quote from @Bryant Sala:

Hi everyone! I'm looking to re-fi my duplex out of an FHA so that we can re-use it on another small multifamily here in Cincinnati.

I've been told by a few lenders that since it's a duplex, I need 85% LTV to re-fi, which we don't quite have yet (closer to 11-12% LTV). Are there any lenders that can help us re-fi into a conventional product with less than 85% LTV?

Thanks again!


 Bryant its been a while. Hope all is well. Why do you feel you need to change the first loan before you will be able to get a second one? 


Mateo what's up!! So we want to househack another small multifamily with a low down payment loan product. But since we've already used our FHA, a conventional loan product requires 15% down on a 1-4 unit. So, if we re-fi out of the FHA into a conventional, we can re-use the FHA to househack again.

I do want to mention that since making this post, I did get referred to a few local lenders and found a low down payment portfolio loan product that will work for us. So no need to re-fi the FHA now. Woohoo! :)

Post: Re-fi a duplex out of an FHA

Bryant SalaPosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 8

Thank you Andrew! This is very helpful.

Post: Re-fi a duplex out of an FHA

Bryant SalaPosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 8

Hi everyone! I'm looking to re-fi my duplex out of an FHA so that we can re-use it on another small multifamily here in Cincinnati.

I've been told by a few lenders that since it's a duplex, I need 85% LTV to re-fi, which we don't quite have yet (closer to 11-12% LTV). Are there any lenders that can help us re-fi into a conventional product with less than 85% LTV?

Thanks again!

Post: How to go from House Hack #1 to House Hack #2

Bryant SalaPosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Kenny Smith:

@Bryant Sala

I'd definitely agree with Devin you should definitely not re-fi right now into a higher rate.  Protect that interest rate you currently have.  

If you want to use the FHA loan again, I'm assuming it is because you only have to put 3.5% down? If that's the case, a conventional loan, you can put as low as 5% down. Yes, it's an additional 1.5%. But, look at it this way, you'd be paying almost double the interest rate if you re-fied right now. Off the cusp, I'd say it will only take 1-2 years to pay the equivalent of that 1.5% additional down, in a higher interest rate. So if you're doing a buy and hold, I wouldn't touch the rate.

If you want to pull equity out, I'd take a look at a HELOC.

As far as I know, most lenders will charge for a re-fi, but you'd to double check with some lenders on that.  Typically what they do is wrap the re-fi costs back into your loan, so you're not paying for anything out of pocket up front.  Besides paying for the re-appraisal on your home, that will come out of pocket.

Best of luck!


Thanks Kenny! That was very helpful. I guess I was under the impression that 5% down Conventional loans don't qualify for 2-4 unit multifamily, we'd need 15% down for that - at least that's what I was told by our lender last year. I'll reach out to a few more lenders to see if we can navigate around that.

Thanks again for your help!

Post: How to go from House Hack #1 to House Hack #2

Bryant SalaPosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Devin James:

Hey Bryant Sala,

I think many people will agree that if you have a low interest rate, then you shouldn't trade that for a higher one. Borrowing at 3% or lower was an amazing opportunity that many people wish they took advantage of.

If you run your numbers and think that your capital can go further by refinancing, then go for it. But it will be difficult to find a deal that justifies letting go of that lower interest rate.

Good luck!

Thanks Devin! I should've noted - our rate with our first House Hack is at 5.25%. But you're right, I will run my numbers to see if we can justify it. We just really want to try and take advantage of the low down payment FHA here in the upcoming year for our 2nd purchase.

Post: How to go from House Hack #1 to House Hack #2

Bryant SalaPosted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 8

Hey there! My wife and I got into our first house hack last year, a duplex in Cincinnati. We're trying to decide how to logistically go from this first one, to the next duplex/fourplex. We want to refi out of FHA and into Conventional, so that we can re-use the FHA - but is now a good time to do so? With rates around 6-7%? Or should we wait a few more months to see if rates come back down to Earth?

Also, are there lenders that do no-cost refi's? Is that common?

Thanks in advance!