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All Forum Posts by: Bruce Runn

Bruce Runn has started 17 posts and replied 728 times.

Post: Debt to Income Ratio

Bruce RunnPosted
  • Investor
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 742
  • Votes 924

@Jon Holdman 

just learned how to add prior notes so it alerts someone I refer to. Jon, can you read my post and advise as I can't get a straight answer from my bank or other companies I call to see if I am ok on my DTI. Thanks

I'd like to get HELOC so I can buy properties with cash and flip them now that I've had several years of doing this with keeping them for rentals but need the cash available to make the offers on the foreclosures.

Bruce

Post: Buying Right of Redemption

Bruce RunnPosted
  • Investor
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 742
  • Votes 924

@Brian P.

You're right, that is a sleazy lawyer kind of thing to do.  It just reminds me that some people will literally do anything to make a buck off someone else.

Post: Additional traditional, or portfolio/blanket?

Bruce RunnPosted
  • Investor
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 742
  • Votes 924

@Raj Gandhi

Hi Raj,

Thanks for the tip.

Post: Debt to Income Ratio

Bruce RunnPosted
  • Investor
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 742
  • Votes 924

Thanks Matt but after reading John's posts it sounds like he is saying the PITI from my investment properties doesn't get added into my debt number since all of my properties cash flow on my schedule E. If that is so, I'm in good shape. If my PITI from all of my properties are added to my personal mortgage, I won't qualify as in essence that is counted twice. Thoughts?

Post: Additional traditional, or portfolio/blanket?

Bruce RunnPosted
  • Investor
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 742
  • Votes 924

Hi Brie,

I  did a cash out refi in July and have 8 properties.

Post: Does rent from Primary Residence reduce my Debt to Income ratio

Bruce RunnPosted
  • Investor
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 742
  • Votes 924

So I have  income tax state income and "net" rental income + depreciation spread over the average of the last two years.  Is the debt my primary residence+ car loan or those two plus the debt from my investment mortgages?  Thanks

Post: Does rent from Primary Residence reduce my Debt to Income ratio

Bruce RunnPosted
  • Investor
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 742
  • Votes 924
Originally posted by @Dave Toelkes:

I realize that this is an old post, but there is a lot of misinformation in this thread regarding rental income and calculating DTI.

Here is how it works.

1. Add up the total of your gross monthly income from wages/salary, child support, alimony, commissions, etc. For this portion of the income calculation, rental income is not included.

2. Add up all your monthly recurring debt obligations that will not be paid off within six months. Primary residence mortgage, HOA fees, car loans, minimum payment on credit cards, student loans, personal loans, etc. For this portion of the debt calculation, rental expenses are not included.

3. Now, look at your tax return Schedule E. Take 75% of your annual rental income and subtract 100% of your annual rental expenses. Do not include depreciation in your calculations. Divide the result by 12 to get your monthly NET rental income or NET rental liability. If the answer is a positive number, you have income, otherwise, you have a monthly liability.

4. Add the net monthly rental income to your gross monthly income in step 1. Or, add the net monthly rental liability to your monthly debt obligation in step 2.

5. Divide the total monthly debt obligation by your total monthly income to get your DTI.

Where in this calculation does my rental property debt get added as I had an loan adjustor tell me I might not qualify since all my properties mortgages added together causes me to have too high a debt/income ratio even though I make money on all properties and have a very good "job" income on top of rental income?  Or since that is part of my expenses on schedule E, it's already in the calculation?  Thanks

Post: Debt to Income Ratio

Bruce RunnPosted
  • Investor
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 742
  • Votes 924

I own 8 rentals properties with mortgages including the duplex I live in. Each of my investment properties positive cash flow $15,000-$25,000/yr. Earlier this year, I applied and barely received a car loan as the adjustor said my debt to income ratio is over 45%. After I had that loan, I've been able to finance two more properties with mortgages so I"m confused as to what the exact calculation is being used since my mortgage broker has never had an issue financing me or selling off my loans. When calculating income, do I take my credit report debt ( my PITI + car loan) / my wife and my "job" income along with adding my gross rental receipts or is it just "job" income + schedule E rental net income(line 26) + depreciation? I have numerous years of tax return rental income so substantiating it isn't an issue and they are seasoned except the two I got this year. It seems if it is the second scenario, I'll never be able to get another loan or HELOC which is actually what I'd like to do since I would like to pay cash for my next place and sell after renovations. On average I have a 50% equity stake in all of my properties. HELP in understanding? Thanks