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All Forum Posts by: Brian Shum

Brian Shum has started 1 posts and replied 2 times.

@David Faulkner, @Chris Mason, @Chris Larsson, @Saikat Bhadra, @Arlen Chou, @Carolina Solorzano - thanks for the feedback and insights!  Here's an update and more clarity on my question :)

Update:  We put in an offer for the house, but we were not the winning offer... The property ended up going into contract for $1.6M +

Clarity:  Thanks for all the replies... the feedback is valid and some of the points ones I have also thought of before.  More specifically, here are the thoughts/concerns I have:

1.  Market Cycle:  It's difficult if not impossible to time investments... however, it does feel like the market in Oakland/San Francisco is quite expensive (affordability, total cost of home, etc).  With the anticipated rise in interest rates and slowing growth in the tech sector, is right now a good time to buy?  On the flip side, I totally appreciate that the Bay Area is a desirable place for families to move and we are land and development constrained.  So, the debate in my mind has been... is it worth it to wait a few months, few years.. or do I buy now?

Which leads to concern #2

2.  Rent vs buy:  My wife and I don't have kids currently...but anticipate starting a family in the next 1-2 years.  If we buy, we were planning to buy our "forever home"-- a 3/2 house that would comfortable fit a family of 4.  However, if we rent in the short term, my thought would be to rent a 2/1.  

At current rates, a mortgage for a 3/2, ~$1.5M house is around $7.5k/month.  A smaller 2/1 rental rents for $4,500-6,000/month... so given the timing and space requirements, what's the best move?

3.  Buy vs. Invest:  I am a big believer of value investing-- specifically, I subscribe to the idea that protecting your principal investment is critical.  As you guys pointed out, buying in the bay area does take a large principal investment (in the form of a down payment).  If I were to buy a $1.5M property,  20% down payment would mean a principal investment of $300,000.  There are a lot of ways to invest $300,000.  I struggle with deciding whether investing the $300,000 in a primary residence is the best investment or if there are better ways to protect and grow the money (eg.  rental properties, stocks, bonds, etc).  --- This $300,000 investment also ties back to my concern whether bay area prices are in "bubble territory" and if there is a chance that I lose parts of my principal or if the $300,000 would grow faster and less risky in other asset forms.

About Me:

I forgot to mention a bit about my background and finances... My wife and I earn enough money to qualify for the mortgage.  And, my wife and I purchased a condo in 2009 (in San Francisco) which we sold in 2016.  We were blessed with a significant profit from the condo sale... which we are now deciding where to spend (to buy a primary residence or invest elsewhere)

Given this new information, would love to get your insights!  

Hi BiggerPockets community!  

First time posting!  Looking for some advice and guidance.  My wife and I live in San Francisco (great city but incredibly expensive).  My wife wants to purchase a home in a SF neighborhood like Miraloma, Portola, etc.  Based on what we have seen, a 2000 sq ft. place would carry a price tag of ~ $1.5M.

Here's where I struggle... what is the best way to decide "yes" or "no" on making this purchase? 

There are a bunch of articles that compare renting vs buying.  There are also books like Rich Dad, Poor Dad, which say that buying a primary residence home is a foolish purchase because it is a financial liability.  On the flip side, there are websites which claims that SF real estate will always appreciate.

How would you guys make a decision on whether or not to purchase a 2000 sq ft home for $1.5M in SF?  I am a fan of using numbers and quantitative analysis, so any feedback there would be much appreciated!