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All Forum Posts by: Brian Ronning

Brian Ronning has started 4 posts and replied 14 times.

Post: Buying a 4-plex with commercial loan and seller carryback complications

Brian Ronning
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  • Northern Wisconsin
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 3

@Erik Estrada

6.8% 5/1 arm, amortized over 25 years.

Post: Buying a 4-plex with commercial loan and seller carryback complications

Brian Ronning
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Posted
  • Northern Wisconsin
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 3

@Lucia Rushton

I am taking to a community bank in my town. I did ask about a rate but down, but they said it would only get me to 6.5 percent.

I am going to reach out to other banks in town and see what my options are for going to a conventional loan. The bank I’m talking to said a 4-plex unit being it’s a investment property has to be a commercial loan.

I don’t know if I should go to a bigger bank to get better rates.

Thank you for your advise!

Post: Buying a 4-plex with commercial loan and seller carryback complications

Brian Ronning
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Posted
  • Northern Wisconsin
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 3

From what I've heard and read about I always understood a 4-plex should be bought with a conventional loan. I was told this is how it works...So maybe I should take your advice and look into a different broker! Thank you for the comment!

Post: Buying a 4-plex with commercial loan and seller carryback complications

Brian Ronning
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Posted
  • Northern Wisconsin
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 3
Good morning, 

I have a 4-plex I put out an offer on. Asking $320,000, with a potential $80k Seller carry back. Current rents would cover all expenses plus cap ex, maintenance and vacancy. Rents are low and after talking to a PM they said that property should bring in $900 a month per unit ( in a college town). With the updated rents, which should happen in October this place would cashflow well. The realtor said the seller would entertain a 40k under asking, (its been on the market for over 90 days)  with a 80k seller carry back. So I put in an offer with my realtor at those numbers and they got back without any counter offer saying its "too little of a purchase price to do any sort of seller carry back."

The units need some work, but shouldn't be any major gut and remodel. Also the water heaters and the boilers for the units were replaced within the last two years. The  current owner has only owned it for 1.5 years approximately. 

My question is this: Could I offer again at 20k under asking, maybe with better interest on the seller carry back note, (which was 4% with balloon at 5 yrs)  and possibly ask for a interest rate buy down on the commercial loan? Commercial loan is currently at 6.8%. It would work really well at 5.8% if that is an option.