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All Forum Posts by: Brian Kempler

Brian Kempler has started 45 posts and replied 75 times.

Hi everyone,

I am getting into wholesaling and lease options. Note buying after a downturn. Including my day job (135k/yr) that means a whole lot of taxes to pay.

Does anyone have advise on how to reduce taxes for someone like myself who has no desire to manage a property that has someone with no perceived ownership interest?

The closest thing I can think of is to possibly put the note buying on hold even longer, and take part in a commercial syndication. I'm not sure if I can depreciate my share, and deduct mortgage interest in this case. Maybe the income tax shielded wouldn't be very much anyways.

I would like to require tenant buyers on a lease option agreement to subscribe to a pre-approved credit repair service (stated in the agreement).

Is such a clause legal? If not what issues might it face and are there ways to handle them or mitigate any downside?

Post: Note investing vs commercial property investing

Brian KemplerPosted
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Hi all. My only background is in wholesaling (SFRs). I am looking for feedback on what to expand into as my warchest grows. The main priority is not having to get in the car and drive places. Secondary is long term wealth. Cash flow is not high on the list but I won't turn it down. I see NPNs and maybe CRE as two strong options for my goals.

Current analysis is my $250k could wait until non-performing 1sts come down in price (prices too high at the moment). I'd look to modify the loan and reperform/resell (holding is another option). Failing that, foreclose and resell on lease option with a fair discount against repairs.

Commercial i know less about other than I do not want to get into apartments. I hear office and industrial is on the decline in general. i think that leaves retail. I could see myself looking for a small retail strip with 50% occupancy that is being neglected, setup a cold calling campaign to get some chain stores in there on good terms (for them). But upkeep and handling of deferred maintenance would be challenges if I don't want to visit. And as mentioned this is a hazy plan at best.

At this moment my hunch is that commercial is the better wealth builder. But further removed from my current experience, which is only house flipping. Notes although not something I've worked with seem easier to manage, probably in part due to being able to buy several NP 1sts for the price of a single down payment on a strip center. But no equity growth, appreciation, leverage, or tax advantages.

Those are my thoughts and I would like to hear yours for anyone willing to do a bit of comparison.

My process only gathers leads on the intake call. I feel like skipping the questions that can be looked up and proceeding to ask about additions to the property or repairs.

Curious to hear others thoughts on why to ask about beds/baths and square footage though.

Post: Disposition: Cold call or send postcards?

Brian KemplerPosted
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Hey Joshua, PropertyRadar has skip tracing so i would simply use that. I plan to use ProspectBoss for power dialing the list

Post: Disposition: Cold call or send postcards?

Brian KemplerPosted
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  • Votes 14

I have a few lists I've gathered: Out of state owners (4.800 names), cash sales (2,600), and 14 local trustee sales (1,000 statewide). 

The 14 trustee buyers should be easy to cold call. As for the rest, do you guys typically take the time to make the calls as the first point of contact, or just send a postcard to everyone?

SMS and email are also options by the way. Property Radar doesn't show the email though. I also plan to market my deals on Craigslist and Facebook groups (I'm doing this virtually).

Property Radar only gave me 14 Trustee sale buyers in Toledo but 1,000 in Ohio, with about 650 in Cleveland which is a few hundred miles away. Probably a data quality problem.

As they are high quality buyers i was thinking of targeting the 1,000 name statewide list (when marketing a wholesale deal in Toledo). But I'm not sure if they typically represent large corporate buyers with a statewide focus, or not. What do you guys think?

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The other alternative is the cash sale list. 2,600 names there in Lucas (Toledo) County alone. I imagine that is a high quality cash buyer list as well since they've already done it onec.

A highly upvoted post here said to look up trustee's sales as they are cash buyers. Also, homes that sold within 30 days of being listed.

Can someone point me to where I might get these lists without going to the courthouse myself (not an option for me)? Thanks!

Thanks guys. @Chris Seveney he says they do tend to have smaller notes. For someone with less capital that could be a good thing. 

Schaub says you can get high yields and cover yourself buy offering to buy the next 12 months of payments for ~18% off, in cash now. Then offer to extend the term as desired. 

He personally doesn't like these smaller loans as it's too much hassle for him. For someone like me with 50k to spend the small size is a benefit.

Unsecured is a big drawback though. I wonder why Schaub even included unsecured note sources.

John Schaub talks about some ways he sources notes, including the following:

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12. Major appliance, carpet salesman, etc.
14. Home repair contractors
15. Building supply
16. Roofers
17. Pool contractors
18. The courthouse

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A few questions about this:

1. Are contractor liens inferior to 1sts and 2nds?

2. What kinds of liens would a fridge or carpet store even have?

3. Any idea what sourcing notes "from the courthouse" might entail?