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All Forum Posts by: Brian Goss

Brian Goss has started 2 posts and replied 5 times.

Post: Has anyone ever used an All-in-One Loan instead of a fixed loan?

Brian Goss
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 2
Quote from @David M.:

@Brian Goss

I haven't done one, but from what I've seen you need to be HYPER vigilant with your cash flows and payments, for all your expenses. if you don't, you are not really getting the benefit. And, you need to keep doing it. Its becomes a lifestyle.

You REALLY need to be into that "lifestyle" since I believe your rate is higher. So, you have to "beat" that difference. Then, you need to keep managing your payments to actually have savings to make it worth while.

Maybe with automatic payment stuff and you can request changes to your credit card due dates, you can take as much advantage of the float. I haven't run any numbers on this, but I've seen similar setups and at some point you are really just ahead the month. So, potentially in theory if you get ahead by one "payment" you are already doing pretty good.

You need to be "ahead" on your income/loss, not "behind." Some people don't have financial situation, nor have the bookkeeping to track or maintain it.

Again, I personally find it very stressful just thinking about living that way for the life of the loan keeping the lowest daily balance possible. Just making extra monthly/periodic principal payments is good enough for me :)

Of course, you need to be a "saver," not a "spender." It IS having a massive credit limit/card...

And, what do you do after your 10yr draw period is up?  And, beating 10% is pretty hard.  Rather just get a fixed rate loan at ~7% and pay down principal.

Just my two cents. Happy to chat. Good luck.

I was just wondering if anyone has used them for RE investing and what they have learned since it is a very unique mortgage product.

Post: Has anyone ever used an All-in-One Loan instead of a fixed loan?

Brian Goss
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 2

@David M. All good points. Paying down a fixed loan doesn't give the immediate access to the equity to make another investment if the opportunity arises. You would have to do a cash-out refi or have a HELOC already in place that continues to grow as you pay down your principal. What I read about the all-in-one loan is that the line amount is not due back after 10 years but that the amount you can borrow gets decreased by 1/20th in the 11th yr and then 1/19th the next year and so on until the line is down to $0 by year 30. I'm an not comparing this vs a FRM for debt payoff reasons but from a financing option in place of hard money.

Post: Has anyone ever used an All-in-One Loan instead of a fixed loan?

Brian Goss
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 2

The max rate (cap) I saw in documents was 9.96% but I think it would be different based on the borrowers credit score and situation.

Post: Has anyone ever used an All-in-One Loan instead of a fixed loan?

Brian Goss
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 2

The flexibility of an All-in-One loan has some appeal on a primary residence to be able to keep your equity working for you. The lender gives you a 1st lien HELOC with a 10-yr draw period, rate is variable , and it is attached to a checking account where the money sweeps nightly as needed to keep the account at $0. I was wondering if anyone has experience with this type of loan and what have been some of your learnings?

Thanks!

Post: Seasoned investor but been out of the game for a couple of years

Brian Goss
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 5
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My wife and I have been investing in real estate for over 10 years but slowed down after we took different jobs. I am looking to kick my RE investing back into gear in 2024! Please reach out to me if you are in the Phoenix, AZ, area and would like to connect. We have a small portfolio of buy and hold SFR and small multi-units. We have also flipped homes, manufactured homes, and done private lending in the past.