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All Forum Posts by: Brett Chandler

Brett Chandler has started 6 posts and replied 36 times.

Post: Should I use a HELOC to buy an investment property?

Brett ChandlerPosted
  • Lender
  • Portland
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 15

@Mathew Wray good thoughts, thanks for the feedback! I've spent some time researching and coming up with a plan to ‘present a case' to my bride. She basically said ‘you're smart, but we're not doing that'. Looks like we'll just be saving up to start on our BRRRR in a few years. It kills me to waste that precious time building up our portfolio, but it beats being single ;)

Post: Should I use a HELOC to buy an investment property?

Brett ChandlerPosted
  • Lender
  • Portland
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 15

@Shaun Weekes Fair enough. My plan would be to kick that HELOC to the curb ASAP, but I can see how that could bite you if you hit the repayment period and haven't touched the principal yikes!

Post: Should I use a HELOC to buy an investment property?

Brett ChandlerPosted
  • Lender
  • Portland
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 15

@Shaun Weekes thanks for the response. I couldn’t tag you in my reply, but you can see it ^up there^ if you’re interested. Thanks again!

Post: Should I use a HELOC to buy an investment property?

Brett ChandlerPosted
  • Lender
  • Portland
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 15
Thanks for your input. That plan makes sense. I do like the sound of freeing up my HELOC availability. It seems like going that route would effectively mean that I was using the HELOC for the 25% down payment plus whatever principal reduction to make the property cash flow. If I was going to do it that way, I would probably use conventional financing with the HELOC as the down payment. Is there any benefit to using the HELOC for the purchase instead, aside from being more attractive to the seller as a “cash buyer” and is that worth it for the 6 month holding cost of the HELOC? 
As far as the cash out refi, my equity is in the form of a 400k debt on a 600k home. My understanding is that a cash out refi would put me into jumbo loan territory and would have me glued to an even bigger mortgage payment for the next 30 years as opposed to having a condo paid for in a few years with the HELOC. I wish there was one right answer. I’m not afraid to get after it, I just want to make sure I’m doing it the right way. Thanks again for your insight! 

Post: Should I use a HELOC to buy an investment property?

Brett ChandlerPosted
  • Lender
  • Portland
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 15

@Alain Labrada thanks for the response. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to ask that question ;)  Yours is a strategy that makes a lot of sense mathematically.

For me, the answer is more personal than mathematical. I don't want to extend myself to the point that I can't afford to pay for all of my liabilities on my monthly income. I also feel more comfortable getting my feet wet as a new investor than completely jumping in, so to speak. Another thing is that if I was going to finance with 20-25% down, the property might not even cash flow. With the interest only HELOC, I would be able to avoid financing costs and the more aggressively I pay down the principal, the more it cash flows and the faster it's paid off. I may be way off base here, that's just how it works in my head.

Post: Should I use a HELOC to buy an investment property?

Brett ChandlerPosted
  • Lender
  • Portland
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 15

Hey there! My name is Brett. I have been doing some research in the articles and forums here. This is my first post. I have some questions and ideas about how to get into the investment property game. I’m hoping that some of you experienced folks can offer some guidance, criticism, or just shoot holes in my plan. Let me start with a little background. I’m 32, married with 3 kids (7 months - 7 years), living in the Portland, OR area. I’m a public employee, eligible to retire in 2040. My goal is to build up a portfolio with a handful of rentals by the time I retire to create passive income in retirement to either enjoy, give away, or reinvest to create generational wealth. 

I have some construction background and am fortunate enough to have a work schedule that would allow me to buy a distressed property, flip, and hold. That will be my primary means of investing in the future. I won’t have the time to commit to that for 5ish years (when all the kids are in school). In the meantime, I’m looking at investing in something more “turnkey”. 

My thought is to take out a HELOC on my home (150-200K), and use it to pay "cash" for a 150k condo (150-200k single family homes don't exist in this area without the need for significant TLC). Then, I would use the rental income to cover the HELOC payments and aggressively pay down the principal with my own contributions. Once I have the HELOC at a zero balance, I would repeat the same process, but more quickly with the added rental income of the first unit. Then rinse and repeat until I have the time to commit to a rehab.

Well, that post ended up being a bit longer than I meant for it to. Thanks for hanging in there with me. I would really appreciate any feedback you have. Thanks!