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All Forum Posts by: Brandt Welch

Brandt Welch has started 3 posts and replied 7 times.

Quote from @Mike Singer:

Lenders price loan based on risk and an investment property is a much higher risk than a second home. A second home is typically in a vacation area more than 2 hours from your current home. There isn't really another option than the one proposed to you unfortunately. Even if you go with that option it needs to make sense on paper (Be a bigger home, closer to work, etc... something that makes the old property inferior to the new).


 Yea that makes sense! I One caveat that I forgot to mention was that the monthly payment I'm targeting for the second property is such that I could still afford it  and my current home even without any rental income that the second property might generate. I thought this might play a factor in how the underwriter views things, but it doesn't seem like it does.

Hello BP community!

I recently purchased my first home about 8 months ago and I'm looking to buy another in the area to rent out. I had a conversation with a lender this morning and he mentioned that the underwriter for my loan app would consider this an investment property and not a secondary residence, thus forcing a higher down payment (20-25%) and higher interest rate. Another option he mentioned is that I could decided that I want to move in to the new property and instead rent out the home that I purchased last year. I'm young (26), unmarried, and without children so this option is not completely infeasible, but still seems like an awfully inconvenient solution since I just moved in less than a year ago. My question is: how do investors typically go about getting financing for that second property? Is applying for a mortgage as an investment property the way to go or are there other options anyone can suggest?

Thanks in advance!

Hey @Jason Wray , this all makes sense and thank your for the detailed response! As a follow-up, what if the loan for the down payment came from an owner in the LLCs individual finances? Would an underwriter view this differently or it still pretty much the same situation?

Originally posted by @Jason Shackleton:

Hey @Brandt Welch Is your LLC currenty profitable? If so you will likely be able to get a loan through the business that may be able to be used for the down payment. This is a unique strategy. The rates would likely make it hard to cash flow however. In terms of essentially 100% financing from a mortgage lender. I don't know of any lenders that do this.

Hey Jason - the LLC is not currently profitable. This would be our first property.

Hello BP,

My partners and I are equal owners in an LLC that we intend to use for real estate investing and we're thinking of creative ways of financing a property. An idea we had was to seek out a portfolio loan from a community lender. My understanding is that we would typically be expected to pay somewhere between 20-25% down on a property in this case. We were then thinking of finding another lender to fund a portion of the down payment.

Does this approach sound like it would make sense? Would portfolio lenders not like to see a down payment partially financed by some third party? How difficult would it be to find a lender to help finance a down payment?

Thanks in advance!

Hi Peter,

I should have put this in my initial question, but the LLC is for myself and my business partners to buy/own real estate with. This seemed like the best way for a team of 3+ to split ownership of the asset and, as you put it, protect ourselves from each other.

Originally posted by @Peter Korty:

Hi @Brandt Welch,

If you don't mind me asking, what is your reasoning for creating the LLC in the first place?

I don't honestly know anything about it, but I would think that if a court pierces your corporate veil, anonymous or not, I think they'll still get the information to track it back to you.

My understanding is that LLCs are really only valuable to protect you from a partner and a partner from you. Hopefully someone more experienced than me will provide you with more information since I haven't even closed on my first property yet.

I've been researching creating an LLC for real estate investing. I've been watching some videos by Anderson Business Advisors in Youtube (specifically this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdSp5GXbiE4) where they suggest creating a member-managed, anonymous LLC in a state such as Wyoming and then creating a member LLC in your operating state. The reason being, this provides the anonymity protections offered in Wyoming while still enabling your operating LLC to own and operate in the state where the property is.

My questions are:

Is the added overhead of this multiple LLC structure worth it?

Is this a legitimate structure?

Are there any drawbacks of this structure that could come up down the line?