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All Forum Posts by: Brandon Itkin

Brandon Itkin has started 3 posts and replied 9 times.

I'm looking for a lender familiar with investors, as well as bonus depreciation. Goal is to write off Mortgage #1 with Rental Income, as well as calculate an accurate DTI after adding back in bonus depreciation from years past.

I’ve searched the forums, and while I’ve seen many posts about solar, I haven’t seen any definitive answers on my following question.

I have a house hack in Denver which I am thinking about installing solar on. The cost of the system after financing would be less than the monthly electricity cost. That with the rising energy prices make me think this system could be a great cash flow as time goes on, as well as of course a great green energy source.

My question is because it is a HouseHack, can I still apply for the current 2022 federal tax credit of 26% on the system? I have seen conflicting information here on how this works when the property generates income. What happens when I move out in 2 years, do I have to repay the credit or is it set in stone after that first tax year being installed?

Second question is, if I can get that 26% credit the system still comes out to $22k and change afterwards. Can I then go and either A) expense that $22k against the income of my property for the tax year? Or B) depreciate that $22k system (or even the full pre-tax credit cost of $30k) over a 5, 7, 27.5 period to further increase tax deductions against the income from the property?

I appreciate all the insight on these forums, and hope this can lead to a valuable discussion for all!

(Yes I will be talking to my CPA soon about this as well, but would like to hopefully hear some real world/personal experience with this)


Subscribed to this thread, was about to post the same question

Originally posted by @Taylor Hansen:

Hey, Brandon! I actually grew up in Aurora! I know the area very well and while it can be a challenge finding anything sizeable in the Denver metro for less than 500k, there are definitely some options with 3 bed/3.5 bath that will work with your budget. Aurora has a strong rental market, but the areas that John Mayer mentioned are also excellent for investments. Englewood and Lakewood are personally some of my favorite areas and they offer a lot of desirability because of how accessible both downtown and the mountains are. The more competitive you can be with your offer, the better. I recommend checking out a service like Accept.inc which can help you get pre-approved for your mortgage and then negotiate as if you have a full cash offer. 

Being a native to the area, what's the average room size you've seen? I have seen houses sub $450k in the area for 3bed, but the rooms are 10x10 which seems almost unlivable once you put a full or queen mattress in there. 

Originally posted by @Ben Rhodin:

Hi @Brandon Itkin!

I don't see an issue with your budget of $450k. $450k is the sweet spot we use for our house hacking clients, we look for 4+ bedrooms where you can easily add one or two bedrooms. This usually ends up being a typical ranch home with a basement, which will usually have 3/1 upstairs, and depending on how the previous owners set up the basement a 2/1 downstairs. These homes are the typical "starter" home so they tend to get less competitive as they aren't as desirable as the more custom newer builds. 

These properties also lend themselves better for after you move out, as they are easily converted to a single-family with an in-law suite in the basement, so you can rent each floor as a separate unit, instead of the whole house as one. You will see roughly a 30-40% increase in rental income this way, over a typical single-family rental. As that is the issue with most single families here in Denver, that they don't cash flow as is. Having to rely on maintaining rent by the room can be challenging as well after you move out, because of the increased work it takes, and the lack of property managers that will handle it.

I rarely have to get a client to go up to 500k unless they want the creme de la creme of homes, for a house hack. I think you are getting stuck on the bathrooms, as long as there is 1 bathroom for every 3 bedrooms you will be fine. You will rarely see a home with equal bathrooms to bedrooms, and will usually mean a very custom home, hence the price premium. Typically you will see 2 to 2.5 baths, one on each level, and maybe a master ensuite. 

Personally, I tend to steer people towards the north and west of Denver (Westminster, Arvada, Lakewood) as these areas are a bit more developed, and have good proximity for multitudes of tenants. They are typically within 30 minutes of downtown Denver, Boulder, and the mountains. So you have a greater pool for tenants than when you get south or east of Denver.

Great point on being able to convert a ranch into an in-law suite style for ease of finding tenants as well as higher possible prices. I would assume that a lot of the people renting might be younger professionals who would each want their own bathroom, while they commute into Denver, but perhaps I'm mis-analyzing the rental demographics in the area.

Originally posted by @John Mayer:

@Brandon Itkin

It’s very feasible. I just did a Redfin search of recently sold (in the last 6 months), 5+ bedroom, 2000+ sq ft homes in the neighborhoods I listed out to you and found 250 closed listings less than $500K.

You don’t need a bathroom for every tenant. I have a 6bd 2 bath and have had zero problems with 5 tenants + my wife and I. Obviously the more the better, but the more important thing is parking. You want to have as much off street parking as possible. My home has a three car garage and 3 off street parking stalls. That’s total overkill, but it helps keep the neighbors eyes off of you if you aren’t following code (ie too many unrelated people in a house), and it is a very desirable thing for tenants.

Good point on parking, I think that will be the biggest hurdle. While I agree with you on being too concerned with the bathrooms at a 1:1 ratio, 1:3 is crazy haha. Maybe it's just being from D.C. but I can't imagine ever living like that or finding someone who would be okay with it. In what area are you able to rent a property like that? 

Originally posted by @Stuart Grazier:

@Brandon Itkin A lot will depend on your budget. I personally think a good area to house hack, with probably the best chance of getting the highest rent-purchase ratios will be Aurora. You have the military base close by that could provide quality renters, plus quite a few of the major hospitals (Childrens, CU Anschutz, etc). 

I'd highly recommed  you get prequalified with a lender before making offers, as that will make you much more comptetive in the market. I can also recommend a few good Realtors who sprecialize at looking for properties to house hack. 

For the budget, I was hoping to keep it around $450k but after looking in Aurora last week while I was there, it doesn't seem you can even get a 3bd/3.5bath for less than $500k, again am I missing something or not looking in the right places? I saw Aurora as the best area for growth in property value as well as rental opportunities but just couldn't justify the 500k mortgage with charging $1k max on rent. This is my first house and house hack, so if you have a good realtor that would be great! 

Originally posted by @John Mayer:

@Brandon Itkin

I focused on 5-6 bedroom houses with lots of off street parking in the 400-500k price range in: Thornton, Arvada, Lakewood, Barnum, Barnum West, Villa Park, Englewood (near DU). Find something within those parameters with some good photo appeal and an updated/open layout you can reasonably expect $700-$800 per room. Finding homes with value-add potential is a plus if you have money for a small renno, but it’s possible to find a pretty turn key home. However, because Denver is so tight, do expect to put in at least $10K in light touch ups in order make attractive offers to sellers (ie fast closing, limited inspection objections).

Wow, I can't believe you found 5-6 beds for that price range. Although I was looking out in Thornton and it didn't seem like there was much of a rental market, was I missing something? Also how many bathrooms were for that price? I was looking to have an individual bathroom for each room, and also not have a 10x10 room so it could actually be liveable, but maybe that's why I was getting kicked up to $500k+

I'll be moving in June and hoping to house hack and then turn into a rental. Lots of neighborhoods, hoping someone can lend a hand with personal experience.