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All Forum Posts by: Brandon Gates

Brandon Gates has started 2 posts and replied 12 times.

Post: Chicago Real Estate Independent Contractor

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Thanks for reaching out John always love hearing your insight. I will do a little diggingon commercial properties! Would you target value add plays?

Originally posted by @John Warren:

@Brandon Gates great to see your name pop up again! Why not try to jump to commercial properties? You can put down as little as 20% and they focus a lot more on the income of the property and the relationship with the principle. 

I don't know of any tricky way to get around being 1099 other than being in the business for 2 years. If you want to do house hacks, it is normally better to have that W2. 

Post: Chicago Real Estate Independent Contractor

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Seems like partnering is my best option. I have been trying to learn some seller finacing skills as well. Could not agree more that 50% of something is better than nothing! 

Originally posted by @Jonathan Klemm:

@Brandon Gates - The whole W2 /1099 thing is something almost every agent goes through that also wants to be a real estate investor.

I wouldn't let the 2-year capital gain tax slow you down, if you can take advantage of it great, but find the next deal regardless.

Find a deal at the top of the funnel (aka off-market) and everything else will fall into place.  You don't need a W2 for hard money loans, however, they will want some experience - that's when you just find a partner.  

50% of something is better than 0% of nothing.

Tom, thanks for the insight. Partnering may be the way to go by putting in a little sweat equity hunting for a deal! 

Originally posted by @Tom Shallcross:

@Brandon Gates - Commercial funding has gotten much better in terms of rates in the last year so you do have options there. However as @Henry Lazerow mentioned, you'll be at 25% down. 

You can find a co-signer or look to partner. There are plenty of people on BP reading this thread who can qualify for a Fannie/Freddie loan that are looking for a deal.  

Also, if you want to own condos, it's part of the long-term plan, and you can find deals, by all means go for it. However, don't buy a condo simply because it's the only thing you can afford at this present moment in time.  

Thanks Henry really good assessment on this. What makes the terms awful? interest rates? Years?
Originally posted by @Henry Lazerow:

I had to wait 2 years to get a property. There are options but they have awful rates/terms and needed 20-25% down. If have parents to co-sign that can work! Condos can be a good option and pretty easy to find that cashflow in Chicago, look for low rise buildings with lower assesments and no rental restrictions. 

Bigger pockets community,

Hope that you guys are off to a phenomenal start to your weeks. I have been in a pickle over the last few months on how I want to approach my next rental project. A little rundown on my current situation. I recently purchased my first investment property about 5 months ago in McKinnley Park that is a duplex that I am house hacking. The househack is going great and it's making me want to get another property under my belt. Right after I purchased the property I became a full-time real estate agent under 1099. My goal is to buy another investment property within the next 6-9 months but am having trouble figuring out what the best plan is for me due to not being able to get approved without 2 years of stable income. My first thought is to bring in a co-signer to invest in a single-family property or condo that needs a little TLC. My other thought is that I just continue to live in the property that I am now to reap the tax benefits from living in the property for two of the first 5 years to avoid paying capital gains tax. I am curious to hear some more experienced investors' insight on what they think would be best for my situation? A few questions that I have been thinking about

Are condos good investments in the city of Chicago?

Should I stay at my property now to reap all tax benefits as opposed to buying again?

Any other ideas on creative ideas on ways to finance a property?

Looking forward to hearing all of your insight!

Post: Chicago House Hacking

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@Ryan Monty do you plan on trying to find a house to househack from a pre-foreclosure? I think there may be some good opportunities. What do you make of this market crash talk? Personally I dont think anything will happen until they stop printing money!

Originally posted by @Ryan Monty:

Great post. I'm personally in a similar phase where I'm ramping up to my first deal, and was trying to decide whether or not a house hack must be the first deal I make since I am BRRRR-focused and so will need to continue to make multiple purchases and need to preserve capital for that. I have found properties where the numbers work to accomplish "living for free", though I'd have to move to the more outer-lying areas of the northside to accomplish this. If I want to live where I prefer (which includes many of the areas you specifically mentioned), the numbers change quite a bit to the point where my goal would be to just match the current rent I'm paying (which is under $1400/month in a building I don't own).

So the goal from that perspective would be to just improve my situation where at least after a house hack that $1400 would be paying down my own mortgage instead of someone else's with a chance of some appreciation thrown in and tax benefits over time.  Though I am wary to buy at this exact moment as there is a glut of inventory expected to flood the market once covid is "over" which will put downward pressure on prices.  Depending on who you listen to there may also be a wave of foreclosures on the horizon, so I'm being wary of that too (on the opportunities side) 

Post: Chicago House Hacking

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Crystal,

That is an amazing chart. Would you be able to send me some other info on markets or direct me in a place I can find info on these markets?

Originally posted by @Crystal Smith:
Originally posted by @Brandon Gates:

Hello everyone my name is Brandon. I am currently in the early stages of finding a house hack property in the Chicagoland area. I have already been in contact with a lender and agent through connections that I met through BiggerPockets. A little it about my situation. 

My approval amount for a duplex will be between $360 to low $400s

Triplex $450 to low $500s depending

I have been looking in Avondale, Hermosa, Logan Square, Jefferson Park, Portage Park, Albany Park, and have even checked out Berwyn and Lagrange. The numbers above are all subject to change depending on rental incomes.

I am getting closer to finding something that works and have been analyzing numbers daily. Any tips or advice for a first time home buyer out in Chicago? Also, is there an area that you feel will appreciate better than others?

Would love to talk and connect with the Chicago BP Community!

Here's my guess on the top 3 areas for multifamily appreciation from your list. How did I come up with these 3 you ask? Just looking at the median growth in sales price for small multifamily over the last 3 years. While the past isn't an indication of the future, the other areas in your list sales growth has slowed. 


1. Hermosa (11.1% Growth)

2. Portage Park (8.5% Growth)

3. Albany Park (6.4% Growth)

Hope that helps. Good luck.

Post: Chicago House Hacking

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Paul this is a great advice and I am heraing this a lot. I need to get on base that is the most important thing. Even if it is a couple 100 out of pocket I am still saving a ton of money. I am going to rent a room out in one of my units too so I should have no problem living for free (hopefully taking into consideration all expenses)


Originally posted by @Paul De Luca:

@Brandon Gates

The first house hack is mostly about lowering your housing expense and gaining momentum for your next deal. Don't expect a great return while you're living in the property, especially for a duplex. Sometimes new investors go in with lofty expectations hoping for a home run but you just need a base hit to get in the game. Nobody really gets rich off of just one deal.

Post: Chicago House Hacking

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Thanks for the tips. It looks like a duplex might be my best option with the self-sufficency test. I have not been putting in offers yet and that is something that I hope to do as soon as next week. There are very limited options on the market right now due to lack of inventory. I am hoping to find a unit with a basement or attic where I can add value! Have you had a property with renters in a basement?

Originally posted by @Jonathan Klemm:

@Brandon Gates - Sounds like you are on the right path.  You have a market area identified, you are actively looking at properties and running the numbers....are you actively putting in offers as well?

My main focus when I was looking for my first house hack was just getting started.  Because you have the loan limits and self-sufficiency test for 3 & 4 unit buildings it makes it nearly impossible to find a house hack where everything works, especially if you are on the northside.....So I put a little more emphasis on looking at 2 unit buildings.  I figured as long as my rent was cheaper and it was in a great area that it would end up being a win.  

Just know your first deal isn't going to be perfect and the quicker you can get something under contract the closer you are to the next deal.

Post: Chicago House Hacking

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Originally posted by @John Warren:

@Brandon Gates it sounds like you have some solid areas in your sites. The big thing to keep in mind if you jump to the suburbs is the higher tax rates in the suburbs versus the city. Keep an eye on assessed values on https://www.cookcountyproperty... They have a tax calculator on there. The tax rate in Berwyn is something like 14% most years, so if you are looking at a Chicago property with 6.8% you can be taken off guard. A lot of agents don't mention this because it is easier to sell these suburban deals if people don't think about how the expenses will adjust year 2. 

As far as appreciation, I think all of the areas you are looking in will have a similar long term outlook. All areas of Chicago are extremely competitive, especially if the deal makes sense which @Tom Shallcross referenced. When a deal makes sense,  you normally have about a 1/2 a day to react and get a showing set up so be ready to move fast. 

Thanks, John this makes a ton of sense. When you say suburbs are you referring to places like Berwyn/ Lagrange? It seems like the taxes in areas like Hermosa are not too outrageous. Logan Square seems to be a little bit higher than the surrounding areas. Also, I was on your bigger pockets seminar the other day and learned a lot. Thanks for putting that together!