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All Forum Posts by: Brad Ourada

Brad Ourada has started 1 posts and replied 2 times.

Post: It seems like a good deal, but...

Brad OuradaPosted
  • Investor
  • Bennet, NE
  • Posts 2
  • Votes 0

Hi Michael, 

Thank you for your response! I've been to Louisville many times for school, it's a gorgeous city. I'll work through things by the number.

1. I appreciate the explanation. A lot of these metrics are new to me, prior to a couple weeks ago analysis for me was rent minus total expense. I stumbled into bigger pockets and have been reading as much as I can ever since. 

2. I agree, it's risky. The LOC is interest only, so I am not obligated to pay $800 a month to service that debt. Since there aren't comps, I don't want to count on refinancing. If I went that route I would plan on paying $850 a month to retire the loan in 3 years. If units went vacant or I had to evict, I would pay interest only until I was back at full occupancy. We have adequate cash reserves but I'd prefer to keep that cash available.

I don't love the risk but I'm also looking at this thinking if I put nothing down, I'll basically manage it for three years without profit, retire the LOC and then have $200-250 a door in cash flow.

3.Yes, sorry. The asking price is $130k. The seller says the rents are $600 for two of the two bed, one bath units, $550 for the other two, bed one bath and $450 for the one bed, one bath unit. 

All the best,

Brad

Post: It seems like a good deal, but...

Brad OuradaPosted
  • Investor
  • Bennet, NE
  • Posts 2
  • Votes 0

I'm new to Bigger Pockets and need money, anyone here willing to loan me money? Just kidding, I'm on episode 30 of the podcast and I think I've heard the guys complain about people doing that 500 times already. 

In all seriousness, I am new to bigger pockets. I have three single family homes, my primary residence and two rentals. Both of the rentals have solid cashflow. I'm now looking at a quadplex. There are no comps for this property in the area. A portfolio lender is willing to give me a loan for the purchase on a 5/1 if I put 20% down. They are also willing to give me a $38k LOC secured by the equity on my other two rentals at 3.99%, capped at 10%.

Rents for the four units would total $2200/month ($26400/year). $1000/year for insurance, $2750/year in taxes, $2040/year for water and sewer, $960/year for gas, $1800/year for maintenance and capex (I do all labor myself). I manage the properties I have, mow, ads on craigslist, etc. No other major expenses. 

As I understand this... I have $8550/yr in expenses not including debt service. With $26400 in gross rents, this would be a $17850 NOI and a 14.8% cap rate if I paid asking price. If I paid the down payment, I would be looking at $9930/year in cash flow. If I utilized the LOC to make the down payment and paid it off within the three year term, it would cashflow $0 for the first three years. Paying the down payment isn't very appealing, my wife and I are adopting and would like to keep the cash on hand, but I don't know about the margin if I finance 100%. I've heard/read people talk about BRRRR, but I don't really want to count on that since I don't have comps.

I lived in my first property until I bought my second and it made sense to rent it. The second property was under ARV and an easy decision. I've never really had to do analysis and have never owned a multi-unit property. I would really love to hear any thoughts you all have. Please forgive any glaring lack of information as a rookie mistake.