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All Forum Posts by: Bo Wang

Bo Wang has started 2 posts and replied 10 times.

any general contractor recommendation for Indianapolis area? thanks

Post: Commercial property with NNN lease

Bo WangPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 2

For purchasing the out of state property, is it normal to use the selling broker as my buying agent? Any drawback for doing this or it is better to use local broker for the purchase?

Also currently I only have LLC setup in my local state, for out of state property, can I first use my local LLC for submitting offer, if it is got accepted, then I immediately start setup new LLC in that state, then switch to the new one later? Can I switch this before the close, or I have to do this after the close? Thanks again.

Post: Commercial property with NNN lease

Bo WangPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 2

Thanks @Winston Parks for the tips, that is very helpful.

Post: Commercial property with NNN lease

Bo WangPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 2

@Joel Owens, thanks for detail analysis, I just saw your email and replied there, any further help will be really appreciate.

Post: Commercial property with NNN lease

Bo WangPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Jon Holdman:

I'm curious what @Joel Owens has to say, but I can't see why a "newbie" can't do this.  Now, "newbie" and "small fry" are two different things, in my mind.   To buy a $5 million property, you need a serious down payment and the ability to qualify for that loan.  I think that means something north of $1.25 million down and $5 million net worth.  But if you can swing that, I think its entirely possible to buy a Walgreens or McDonalds.  If you don't have two nickels to rub together, you're not going to play in that space.  I also don't think this is a space for no money down deals.

There are brokers that deal in these properties.  I used to get e-mails from one until I unsubscribed.  I don't recall any Micky D's but there were several WalGreens and similar properties.  My concern with these (besides the size of the deals) is what happens if the tenant declare bankruptcy.  Many of these building are pretty dedicated to their specific client and you could be left with nothing but a chunk of land.

@Jon Holdman, thanks for pointing out bankruptcy risk, looks pick industry is even more important than the location. If the tenant directly got bought by another company (not go through bankruptcy),  I assume the new company will guarantee the original lease?  If the tenant fill bankruptcy (chapter 11 case?) but also got bought by a new company, what will be this case here? Does the original lease still guaranteed by the new owner? Thanks again.

Post: Commercial property with NNN lease

Bo WangPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Joel Owens:

Hi Bo,

Without talking to you on the phone about your specific situation it is hard to give specific info.

Single tenant properties you generally have 

NNN - Absolute triple net and you do nothing.

NN - Depending what is written into the lease you might be responsible for roof, structure, parking lot, utility lines,etc. 

Ground lease - You do not own the building just the land and tenant pays ground rent. Typically if the tenant does not renew the option period you get the building for free that was constructed on the land. 

( You also have zero cash flow, and leasehold type deals but those are more rare).

Multi tenant retail buildings are a different animal.

Different buildings in various states are trading at various cap rates currently. The price range you are buying in determines what is possible or not.

I look over 500 to 1,000 retail properties a week for clients all across the country. I have lots of California clients. It also matters if you are trying to do a 1031 exchange or not as certain timelines have to be met.

Hope it helps.

 @Joel Owens, thanks for detail explanation. Yes, I do see cap rate change a lot for different area. In CA, could not find high cap rate, but I do see good cap rate for out of state opportunity. 

Post: Commercial property with NNN lease

Bo WangPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Ed LeGrand:
Originally posted by @Bo Wang:

Thanks @Charlie MacPherson, @Ash Patel, @Eduardo Zepeda for all the suggestion, that does help a lot.

For maintenance, to make sure the tenant maintain the property properly, is that possible I have inspector inspect the property regularly (such as yearly), if there are deferred maintenance, can I request the tenant to fix it? Does this the normal case?

Also, I do see some NNN lease property vacant during the lease, if they are corporate guaranteed, the company will still continue pay the rent until lease end, but how to handle these vacant property during this period before the lease end? Does the landlord has the power to re-rent to other tenant?

Thanks again.

Typically the space could be subleased if the corporate guaranteed tenant vacated. This item would be covered in the lease. I am a supporter of single tenant net leased investments and have worked on brokerage teams specializing in NNN properties. If you find a product type, tenant, and market that you like, the opportunities for NNN lease investing are endless. Good luck!

 @Ed LeGrand, currently I do only focus on the single tenant lease as well, but still evaluate which property type should I focus on, such as drug store, franchise store, restaurant, etc. Still a lot of to learn and long way to go before I pull the trigger. :)

Post: Commercial property with NNN lease

Bo WangPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Jody Newman:

You as a newbie will not get corporate guaranteed leases. You will get d-f rated tenants. Have you ever heard of O and NNN? O and NNN get Walgreens type tenants. You will get Granny and Pappys flower shop types as tenants.

Make sure the building you buy can be used in various ways.

I talked to several commercial loan lender/broker already, none of them mention that I will not qualify the corporate guaranteed NNN lease. They mainly care about how much down pay I can put down, and the credit score, etc. They give me a price range for me to consider for the property price range as well. I do mention that I am only interested in the big corporate guaranteed lease, they have no issue with that. Hope they are clear with my request, but I will be surprised if corporate guaranteed lease has such limitation for the investor. I still have a lot of to learn and thanks for your suggestion.

Post: Commercial property with NNN lease

Bo WangPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 2

Thanks @Charlie MacPherson, @Ash Patel, @Eduardo Zepeda for all the suggestion, that does help a lot.

For maintenance, to make sure the tenant maintain the property properly, is that possible I have inspector inspect the property regularly (such as yearly), if there are deferred maintenance, can I request the tenant to fix it? Does this the normal case?

Also, I do see some NNN lease property vacant during the lease, if they are corporate guaranteed, the company will still continue pay the rent until lease end, but how to handle these vacant property during this period before the lease end? Does the landlord has the power to re-rent to other tenant?

Thanks again.

Post: Commercial property with NNN lease

Bo WangPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 2

I am newbie to commercial real estate and study this recently. I plan to purchase out of state commercial property with NNN lease. Per my understanding, for NNN lease, it is leasee's responsibility to handle all maintenance cost and pay insurance and property tax. So from landlord point of view, I should be hassle free ideally and net rent should be my net income.

Anyone has out of state commercial property experience with NNN lease here? Is that easy to handle for the out of state investor who could not visit property easily?

Also since landlord has no maintenance responsibility for the property, do I still need management company to manage the property?

How can I guarantee the leasee will pay the property tax and buy the property insurance for the property? Will I get tax payment receipt and detail insurance policy copy which I can make sure they have the correct policy and enough coverage?

Thanks a lot for any suggestion and advise.