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All Forum Posts by: Bobbi Casalino

Bobbi Casalino has started 18 posts and replied 29 times.

Post: Must I call every single bank???

Bobbi CasalinoPosted
  • Investor
  • Brooklyn, NY
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Steven Foster Wilson:
Quote from @Bobbi Casalino:

... it's what I'm doing trying to find the best rates and terms for a 1.5 commercial cash-out refi on a fully paid off mf in Brooklyn. LTV is less than 50% and my credit is solid. Is there a website that compares commercial loans? Rates I've been quoted range from 5.41 - 7.25%. So far brokers are better than banks and CUs. Has anyone here gotten a nice deal?


 You could also call local brokerages to see who they use. I call multiple banks whenever I am doing something like this. I have found the more you ask the more you receive. 

Wow, Steven, I can't imagine that brokers would be so forthcoming in sharing their best sources. 

Post: Must I call every single bank???

Bobbi CasalinoPosted
  • Investor
  • Brooklyn, NY
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 8

... it's what I'm doing trying to find the best rates and terms for a 1.5 commercial cash-out refi on a fully paid off mf in Brooklyn. LTV is less than 50% and my credit is solid. Is there a website that compares commercial loans? Rates I've been quoted range from 5.41 - 7.25%. So far brokers are better than banks and CUs. Has anyone here gotten a nice deal?

Post: Lawyer to 'review' contracts

Bobbi CasalinoPosted
  • Investor
  • Brooklyn, NY
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 8

Thank you, Mohammed. When you say start to finish, I assume you mean closing included. If I retain an attorney for the closing, then that atty will review other contracts for a nominal fee?

Post: Attorney to REVIEW Contracts

Bobbi CasalinoPosted
  • Investor
  • Brooklyn, NY
  • Posts 29
  • Votes 8

Hi. I have prepared several legal documents. Has anybody here ever had a lawyer "review", not create or draft, docs for them... perhaps an annual check against new legislation, etc. If so, what kind of fee did you pay?

Locale is NYC. These are some of the documents: Revocable Trust (10 page), Lease with Option to Buy contract, Memorandum of Contract and

Promissory Note + Lien on property

Thank you!!

    Post: Attorney to REVIEW contracts

    Bobbi CasalinoPosted
    • Investor
    • Brooklyn, NY
    • Posts 29
    • Votes 8

    Hi. I have prepared several legal documents. Has anybody here ever had a lawyer "review", not create or draft, docs for them... perhaps an annual check against new legislation, etc. If so, what kind of fee did you pay?

    Locale is NYC. These are some of the documents: Revocable Trust (10 page), Lease with Option to Buy contract, Memorandum of Contract and

    Promissory Note + Lien on property

    Thank you!!

      Post: Lawyer to 'review' contracts

      Bobbi CasalinoPosted
      • Investor
      • Brooklyn, NY
      • Posts 29
      • Votes 8

      Hi. I have prepared several legal documents. Has anybody here ever had a lawyer "review", not create or draft, docs for them... perhaps an annual check against new legislation, etc. If so, what kind of fee did you pay? 

      Locale is NYC. These are some of the documents: Revocable Trust (10 page), Lease with Option to Buy contract, Memorandum of Contract and 

      Promissory Note + Lien on property 

      Thank you!!

      Post: Infinite banking, have you used it?

      Bobbi CasalinoPosted
      • Investor
      • Brooklyn, NY
      • Posts 29
      • Votes 8

      I'm in the process of insuring my family for IBC. To me, it looks like the best policies are:

      MassMutual : WL Legacy 10 (12, 15, 20 also) Pay or HECV

      NY Life: Custom WL

      Northwest Mutual: Participating WL

      Guardian Life: WL Ins

           I'd like to know if you have any of these and what pros/cons you've found. I appreciate any input you may have!

      Post: seller financing calculations

      Bobbi CasalinoPosted
      • Investor
      • Brooklyn, NY
      • Posts 29
      • Votes 8

      If it's not an amortization calculator youre looking for, say if you're trying to assess the deal's merits, you can use the BP Tools, specifically "Rental Property"

      Post: Using Cash-Out to Buy, Reno and Lend

      Bobbi CasalinoPosted
      • Investor
      • Brooklyn, NY
      • Posts 29
      • Votes 8
      Quote from @Randall Alan:
      Quote from @Bobbi Casalino:

      Where I'm at today:

      A) getting 1.2m cash-out of my 8 family in Brooklyn, at 5.75/ 30 year adjustable with $60k in closing costs (NYC Mtge tax is 2.8% so that's 33,400 right there). ** How's that sound? Are there better terms?

      B) lending 500k of that 1.2m to the seller of:

      C) a 2 family I'll be leasing with option to buy in 5 years for 1.5m. (We'll subtract the balance from the 1.5 - will bring it down to about 1m)

      D) I will restructure the property from 2 to 3 apts, potential 9k/mo rental income after reno. 4 mos with no income?

      E) thinking 4 mos and 300k for reno

      F) I will have 700k to lend (PML) and invest

      I'd really be grateful for your feedback, suggestions and recommendations for NYC attorneys and other. As complex as this deal is, the most difficult thing is finding capable, smart people, esp, an attorney. Hoping to find an attorney experienced in 

              1) Executory/Lease-Option, 

              2) Mortgage/Promissory Note, 

              3) Private Money Lending

      . 4) LLC

        @Bobbi Casalino

         A lot of of what you say sounds really scary from an investment perspective.

        First there is the word "Adjustable" - how often does that reset?  What if rates are higher when it resets... could be $1000 a month more on a payment potentially if it reset to 7%?

        The "What if's" are really scary - What if the person you lend $500,000 to... pick the ending: dies; has a tax lien put on his property; has his property value depreciate to where it is worth a lot less in 5 years; needs to sell the property sooner; doesn't want to sell the property in 5 years because now it's worth $3 million, etc, etc.  Just seems like lots of scenarios that could wreck havoc there.  Whatever you do, be sure to get a lien on the property (not just a mortgage and a note)... but know you will likely be in second position behind the original mortgage company of his - unless he owns it outright?  In which case why does he need a $500,000 note when he could just borrow from his own house?.  If he has little equity in his property and he defaults on his payments,  you likely aren't covered in equity on your lien if he goes into foreclosure.  I would definitely find a really good real estate attorney for this, and it's entirely possible he will try and talk you out of this deal - or at least change the way it is set up!

        Next - If I'm reading this right, you are doing improvements to a property you won't technically own - you just have an option to buy.  What if YOU (or he) wants out along the way... you now have sunk $300,000 into the project that isn't yours - how will that all work if the 'situation changes'?  I think I might ask to be added as a co-owner of the property.   You can establish a percentage ownership with the property appraiser.  That would at least help secure your position.

        Your "no income" period could totally be a miscalculation.  We got tied up for 6 months going through permitting for new windows at the end of a project.  Cost us an extra $50,000 to bring a 1925 house to 2022 code.  Still made money, but not like what we thought we were going to.

        You will be starting out $93,000 in the hole between closing costs and taxes.  You say what your potential income will be, but not what your lease expense will be on the property, so it is hard to know how good a deal you are getting as to your ability to pay back your note - which just the P&I will be $7,000/month.  

        Seems like lots of moving parts, with lots of potential to go wrong.  Hopefully it goes right for you, but doing major improvements to a property you don't own would be tricky / suspect in my book!  5 years is a long time to be bed-fellows with another person on a property where you may have competing interests down the road.  A lot can change in that amount of time.

        Wish you all the best!

        Randy


         Hi Randy. I appreciate your very thoughtful response. I'll clarify some things The loan may adjust every 5 years and I'll have option to prepay (and get out of it) at those times. The rate will be around 3% over fed funds rate (5 year treasury)

        The borrower is the seller and so I plan to use the house I'll lease as collateral. It's entirely paid off- no mortgages or liens (I checked); Essentially she'll pay off her loan by deducting balance from my 1.5m purch price. *You said I should get a lien on the property as well. How do I do that?

        We'll file a Memorandum of Contract with the county clerk which refers to our signed, notarized Executory contract. That's binding so she won't be able to reneg.

        Ill pay 8,000 lease per month plus the 7,000, but will collect 3,600 mortgage payment. (11,400)  Hopefully, I'll be collecting 8000/mo rent within, let's call it 6 mos.

        I'll have the cushion of the remainder of the 1.2m

        Bbbbut, if I dont make money on money I'm paying 5.75% for (but with closing costs, the real cost of the money is more than that), I lose

        Here's one way: (summarized by Invictus Property Advisors)

        June 15, 2019 may come to be remembered as doomsday by the New York City real estate community.

        Seemingly overnight and without much forewarning, lawmakers passed pro-tenant bills and sweeping regulations governing rent stabilized units. Nearly every mechanism used by building owners to deregulate units are now null and void.

        The industry laments these latest changes as they will significantly diminish the housing quality, worsen the city’s housing crisis and put pricing pressure on free market units.

        Legislators in Albany, for their part, may have cut off their nose to spite their face: the draconian changes will lead to less tax revenue to pay for essential government services.

        While state legislators in previous years have taken the path of responsible and incremental reform, the current administration sealed the deal for the state’s biggest and most substantial rent overhaul in decades and maybe ever.

        Unless repealed or terminated, these changes to the rent code will live in perpetuity. Specifically, individual apartment improvements, or IAIs, and major capital improvements, or MCIs, have undergone significant caps, vacancy bonuses abolished, and high-income deregulation scrapped, to name a few.

        Multi-family purchasers in New York City who bought assets in the last 3-5 years could not have accounted for such drastic legislative risk. As capitalization rates for rent regulated buildings are projected to spike, certain property owners may have lost 30-35 percent in value literally overnight.

        Highly leveraged investors whose business model focused on adding value to New York’s aging housing stock may not be able to afford the upkeep of these assets and are in jeopardy of letting their properties go into disrepair.

        As the ink continues to dry on this newly enacted legislature, share prices of lenders with a high concentration of mortgages backed by rent-stabilized buildings in New York City are plummeting as landlords are exploring all options, including handing back the keys to their lenders.

        Acquisitions that transpired under the previous rent laws will affect both mom ‘n’ pop landlords as well as large institutions.

        Most notably, Blackstone Group bought New York’s Stuy-Town-Peter Cooper Village in a $5.3 billion deal in 2015. At the time of the acquisition, roughly 6,400 of the 11,000 apartments were deemed “affordable” for a period of five-20 years—not anymore. Given the recent changes, how will recent acquisitions be able to sustain this level of debt with property values crumbling across the city?

        A saving grace of sorts for building owners: the new act does not affect Substantial Rehabilitation as a basis for deregulation.

        That is, if 75 percent of the building-wide systems (i.e., there are a total of 17 building systems, including, among others, plumbing, heating, fire escapes, elevators, kitchens, bathrooms, pointing or exterior surface repair) are completely replaced when the building is 80 percent vacant, units subject to rent stabilization can be deemed permanently exempt and converted to free market status.

        In addition to at least 13 of the 17 building systems that need to be upgraded, all ceilings, flooring and plasterboard or wall surfaces in common areas must be replaced; and ceiling, wall and floor surfaces in apartments, if not replaced, must be made as new as determined by DHCR.

        From a valuation perspective, buildings that are at least 80 percent vacant will likely begin trading at a significant premium if they can qualify for the building-wide system improvements.

        For example, a six-unit building with five-vacancies is 83 percent vacant and an investor would likely go through the Substantial Rehabilitation process to deregulate the vacant apartments. This building would trade for a significant premium to a comparable six-unit building with fourvacancies (i.e., 67 percent vacant and not eligible for the Substantial Rehabilitation exemption), as a purchaser in this instance would have to underwrite based on cash flow from the existing legal rents.

        Although buy-outs of tenants are less likely to be initiated by owners in the current environment, those landlords whose assets would be favorably impacted by the Substantial Rehabilitation process would likely continue to offer financial incentives to tenants that would allow them to exceed the vacancy threshold.

        This would likely play out as an “all or nothing” arrangement where an owner would offer a lump sum to a group of tenants as long as all of them agree to sign surrender agreements.

        Prior to the rent reform, landlords benefited from each rent regulated vacancy. As a result, fewer rent stabilized tenants will be offered life-changing sums of money to relinquish their rights to their apartments and vacate.

        Ironically, landlords of high vacancy buildings are further incentivized to “shelf” or “warehouse” units and keep them vacant for the foreseeable future.

        Furthermore, if a property owner is close to meeting the thresholds for Substantial Rehabilitation, units are expected to remain vacant.

        The new rules may have the unintended consequence of creating a perverse incentive to keep rent stabilized units vacant with low legal rents further exacerbating the affordable housing crisis and hurt the very same people policy makers, one can only hope, were aiming to protect.