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All Forum Posts by: Jonathan Sher

Jonathan Sher has started 21 posts and replied 165 times.

Originally posted by Cheryl C.:
Thanks Todd. I didn't want to trip over some rules that I didn't know about. I haven't had this type of situation before. Can LL's just refuse to take section 8? (Due to the inspections or whatever). I was taken aback by the son telling me what I could or could not do with respect to my leases and applications. For example; he is not an applicant so I don't need his credit/income.

Cheryl, the son sounds like a "professional" tenant. I would be careful

Post: 23 and just starting out

Jonathan SherPosted
  • Saint Louis, MO
  • Posts 168
  • Votes 40
Originally posted by Mark Pandelidis:
I'm 23 years old and I'm just starting out in my career as a real estate investor. I've taken a few classes, read a few books and talked to a few people about different types of investment strategies and I am now ready to start my journey. However I don't really know where to start. I only have a few thousand in the bank and I don't own my own home yet so I don't have a line of credit or any equity. My credit is great, and I've been told by my local bank that I would be approved for more than $20k if I applied for a loan. The strategy I am mostly interested in implementing is lease options (rent to own) and I have my father as a partner, but I'd like to get some ideas on how to start getting ready to buy my first investment property.

Anything will help

Mark, welcome. I am also 23, received my BS BA in Finance and Real Esate, have read a ton of books and this forum and am ready to jump into the real world of owning property. I am currently looking at single family homes in the Saint Louis area. I will be renting these. It looks like you already mentioned you are interested in rent to own options. Any particular reason why?

Post: Liability if neighbor's dog attacks?

Jonathan SherPosted
  • Saint Louis, MO
  • Posts 168
  • Votes 40
Originally posted by Bienes Raices:
The neighbors next to my rental have a pitbull. Most of the time it's kept in the backyard. I am not on good terms with the neighbors because I had a run in with one of the adults there on a separate matter.

Today I had some workers at the property removing old, loose fence material that was piled against the existing fence. The pitbull was there next door as usual, and a group of teens were sitting in the backyard smoking herb.

Once the workers removed last piece of debris that was covering the fence, a small gap was revealed in the fence and the pitbull's snarling face appeared through the gap. One of the workers was spooked by the incident.

If the fence was damaged by a storm or part of it just fell over naturally, would I be liable if the dog broke through and bit one of the tenants?

Seems like an unfortunate and headache situation to be in. Your fault or not, if your tenant were to sue, you would probably be dragged in it by their lawyer. Name everyone in the lawsuit you can, and ask questions later.

I feel comfortable there currently, I think the thing that worries me is a longer term horizon, people always talk about "area's changing". I also have 2 other partners, so we all have to agree. It will be interesting.

Originally posted by Simon Shih:
What are you wanting out of the house? Rehab and flip or are you going to hold onto it for a rental? What's the ARV on the house? Your ARV would determine if this is a good deal or not for a flip, and if you can rent it for 675 on a 26,000 house, it fits the 50/2 rule.

Simon,

Thanks for the reply, I am interested in renting, I'm not expecting this house to be worth 50k in 5 years, It would be a cash flow opportunity. The County has it assessed around 49K, I know that you can take that with a grain of salt. I have done more research and I think rent closer to 750 is valid. I have a family friend that has 5 houses in the same area that rents his similar houses for 725-750 a month.

Found a 2 bedroom 1 bad SFH in the Saint Louis area. House was built in 1949, is listed as 800 sq ft and has a finished basement. asking price is $26,000. House probably needs 4,000-5,000 in cosmestics, (painting, new counter top, new kitchen floor, several fixtures..)

Pros:
1. New roof and decent curb appeal
2. New plumbing pipes in the basement
3. No signs of water damage in basement
4.Recently painted on the outside
5.I have been told from a reliable source that rents are around $750 a month, I would go more conservative and estimate $675.

Cons: Not the most desirable area, neighboor was pretty quiet though, no suspicous lottering, kids playing in yards, people relaxing on front porches. Median household income for the area is $35,000. I think the numbers are fantastic... but this would be my first property. Any wisdom or thoughts?

I like to think of this as positive news.. Over the last year, we have heard, double dip, double dip, double dip. Now that it has officially declared, maybe people will feel more confident in purchasing a house? This might signal to people that the bottom is in. Just my opinion.

Post: Where To Begin Choosing Software

Jonathan SherPosted
  • Saint Louis, MO
  • Posts 168
  • Votes 40

I'm in the same boat, I've been searching for software to manage my small Real Estate company. I came across this software yesterday. I downloaded the free trial, so far I love it. Check it out.

http://www.landlordmax.com/

Post: Areas with a lot of HUD owned/foreclosures

Jonathan SherPosted
  • Saint Louis, MO
  • Posts 168
  • Votes 40
Originally posted by Joshua Dorkin:
Jonathan -
Finding renters in parts of a city that are on the decline isn't always the challenge. The difficulty is often finding tenants that meet some standard that you've set - be it income, credit scores, etc.

Before jumping into flipping or landlording in an area, I'd want to be certain that there was a demand for these properties to be rehabbed and that there was a strong pool of tenants that met my rental guidelines.

I've owned property in distressed areas and had to take my losses to get out before those losses became even larger.

My advice - distressed areas are fine if they are on the mend. On the other hand, buying while an area is in decline is a formula for disaster and loss.

Good luck. There's plenty of opportunity int he mid-west -- just keep looking!


Thanks for your input, Sometimes I fee like its overwhelming sometimes to locate good deals. MLS listings always seem like they have been picked through or the good deals never made it to the MLS. I'm trying to find a balance between decent price/deal with decent area. Sometimes it feels like its hard to find or the numbers don't work

Post: Areas with a lot of HUD owned/foreclosures

Jonathan SherPosted
  • Saint Louis, MO
  • Posts 168
  • Votes 40

I have been looking in the Saint Louis area for single family/multi-family housing. When I search HUD listings, A lot of the listings are in a specific area of town. What can this possibly forecast or mean? Is this an area that you should stay away? It this area so bad economically that people in the area can't afford houses? some of the houses are halfway decent, for example, they aren't boarded up 120 year old houses. I would probably be buying single family homes and renting them out or flipping. I know it would be hard to flip a house in a distressed area, but what about renting? What should I be concerned with or consider? To my knowledge, these areas are not war zones.