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Hello BiggerPockets,
Would love to hear some opinions/feedback on what course to choose as I try to tackle my first rental property. I am an agent in San Diego and work with some of the top flippers in the area (If you are looking to buy a fixer or have a fixer to sell - give me a call 410-507-9854). I have saved some cash and have another chunk in the stock market (enough to be comfortable with a $50k down payment). Currently I am renting at very discounted price for being a few blocks from the ocean. I know the first step is usually to buy your own house but I love where I live and only pay $750 a month - Don't tell my landlord they could charge $1,400 haha. So with all that being said, here are the options I am considering:
1. Try to house hack. I have seen a few properties in coastal areas that have house hacking potential. Like I said, I sell fixer properties to flippers so I definitely come across a few a year that I would love to take on. That being said, I would need to raise funds and cosign with someone (probably family) to take on the down payment and mortgage since the property is going to be in the $900k-$1.5m range. Also, even with renters helping to pay the mortgage, I would most likely be increasing my living expense substantially from what I am paying now. This is my favorite option because if I figure out how to afford it, I know I'll have an appreciating property that is partially being paid for by renters.
2. Buy in a cheaper market. I have researched a ton of other markets and like a few (Fort Myers Florida, Baltimore Maryland, Nashville Tenn, etc). I like this since I could afford to make a move today by myself, but I am not sure I want to take on the risk of investing out of state to maybe cash flow a few hundred every month.
3. Hunker down and save cash. If I put my head down and save over the next few years, I could (hopefully) get to a point where I could purchase a multi-family property to BRRRR in San Diego.
Would love to hear opinions, feedback and/or your experience buying your first rental when living in an expensive market. Thank you!
Hi there!
I believe the conforming loan limit on a single family home in San Diego county is $879,750 now. If you can find a home for around $900-925K then you can put 5% down on a conventional loan and purchase the home by yourself. With that said, the numbers may not be great as you already alluded to, so I would dig into the math and and consider the following:
1. How much can you reasonably rent each room for?
2. Are you comfortable with roommates for the next few years as you continue to build your business and grow your income?
3. After purchasing, do you have a decent financial runway that can carry you for 6-12 months if income changes drastically?
4. What is your time horizon?
5. What would be your new housing expense? If current is $750 and it goes to $2,500... would that be affordable for you?
I agree with many of the others in this thread stating that you may get a better return/numbers out of state, however, if you have an "edge" in CA and you feel comfortable purchasing and holding for the long run, then CA might work well for your situation.
Good luck!
Appreciate the response, Luis.
The "edge" you noted at the end is a big proponent of why I can't decide. "Why invest some where else if my current job is finding deals here!?" Haha That is the little voice I fighting with inside my head... I know creativity is the answer and talking with people like you guys will help me get there. Here are my quick answers to your questions...
1. If we are in PB where I live now, each room could rent about $1,500 if it is going to be a shared living situation for them. A private studio situation could rent closer to $1,800 or more depending on how big the place is.
2. I am living with my Fiancee (another reason why rent is so cheap), so unless that are close friends, I don't think I'll win that battle. We'd ideally be able to renovate the place to have two or more separate living spaces.
3. After purchasing, I do not have a safety net in the case of losing my job and taking on the full mortgage without selling off some of my investments in the stock market. So yes and but I absolutely don't want that to be the plan if things go sideways.
4. I am not exactly sure what this means but I'll try to answer it. Since I am getting married, potentially starting a family is on the horizon in the next five years. Being able to support our life style without working 70 hours a week is the goal when that time comes.
5. Yes that would be affordable.