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X X has started 3 posts and replied 28 times.

Originally posted by "mike_mn":
Yikes...I think it would be a miserable existence to never work again. I take 2 weeks off and can't wait to get back to work...You can only play for so long without feeling the need for productivity. It was bred into the human nature.

Besides, 10 Million wouldn't last you very long if you didn't seek a return on your money. And that would take a lot of work to do.

To each, his own, brother. If you can't retire on 10 million, we must have much different lifestyles. I could make 10 mil last a long, long time, and wouldn't miss the work. I did say it somewhat tongue-in-cheek - of course I would find something to keep me challenged, but I wouldn't let it dictate the course of my life.

biggerpo,

Understood - and, I agree. However, from my point of view, statements like:

are not productive, and to a new member [to the board, not just REI] it makes me question whether to continue to participate. I actually got an apologetic PM from another member because of it.

I've stated many times that this will not be the prototypical investment that I model my strategy after: It's a one-timer to do a deal with a family member. Sure, maybe I'm not the smartest guy for doing 'business' with family, but I did in this case. I would not have bought the same house, put that much down, or charged that much rent on any other property. The title of this thread says it all: I'm having difficulty finding deals.

Anyway - thanks, and I'll move on and continue to reap the benefits of your site! 8)

Originally posted by "mike_mn":
Become a philanthropist.

Indeed. And never work again. Ever. :D

Originally posted by "MikeOH":

BlackCobra,

That's just silly. In the real world of landlording, tenants (and their friends, relatives, etc) smoke. That's the reality of the situation. You can put anything in your lease that you want to, but people will smoke in your rentals.

I guess I'm overly optimistic. I really don't want people smoking in my properties...It seems like more people smoke outside these days, but maybe I'm kidding myself.

I can remember apartments that I rented when I was a kid - the prior tenants smoked, and it was really bad - even after carpet cleaning and paint.

Originally posted by "MikeOH":
Black Cobra,

A $197,000 house that has gross rents of $1,300 per month does not have a $100 positive cash flow! In the real world it loses about $660 per month! Also, in the real world, tenants (including relatives) almost never buy the property.

I never deal with relatives, friends, or friends of relatives. I think it's Bluemoon who always says "never deal with anyone you can't sue". It's sad, but he's exactly right.

Mike

Mike,

It's interesting how you know so much about this deal. How much is the mortgage payment? How much did I put down? What's my interest rate? How did you come up with $660/month loss? What does my sister do for a living that will prevent her from buying it after she's married? What kind of savings plan did we come up with to afford her the means for a downpayment in 36 months?

You've made yourself perfectly clear:

* I know you're a savvy investor.
* I know you think I'm an idiot for doing this deal. [You've expressed that in 2 threads now]
* I get the picture.

Not sure if you're trying to be helpful, or just belittle the new kid, but my perception is the latter.

Thanks for the input, guys. I'm already in, so I'll let you know how it turns out :D

Originally posted by "MikeOH":
The lower class smokes. It's that simple. Therefore, since these people are my customers, I allow them to smoke. After all, I want to have tenants in my rentals. Remember, you are not living in your rental. It is impossible to instill your morality or standards on your tenants.

Mike

Not exactly true. Even the lowest class will be willing to smoke outside. There is no reason to expose your own property to harmful elements that are avoidable. Write language into your lease that will alllow for repainting and carpet cleaning if there is evidence of cigarette smoke in the house.

Post: Breaking a lease?

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Originally posted by "TN-Apprentice":
Originally posted by "dal1":
All that will happen if she moves is she forfeits her deposit.

I'd check the lease on that. The lease I use says that you're responsible for the entire term of the lease and failure to pay on time will result in the entire amount being due on demand, and that's all terminology I got from a standard lease that lots of people use. Now, it would take going to court, etc., to get a judgment before a landlord could ever collect, but that may be worth doing in some circumstances.

Precisely. I would definitely review the language of the lease that she signed. It's very likely that she's responsible for the monthly payments for the remainder of the term.

EDIT: I would agree that she should speak with the landlord and beg for mercy :)

Originally posted by "dal1":
How complex are your leases? Do you amend and try to cover all of the horrible stuff that needs to be added with the next tenant? Do you ever change your lease if the prospective tenant objects to some language in your lease? Thanks in advance

Not sure about ameding all the horrible stuff, but my lease docs are biased enough where I would consider changing portions if it were a dealbreaker with good tenants. I've been in business [not REI] long enough to know that there's no 'perfect' contract for all occasions...

This is an intersting topic; if you listen to some, they would have you believe that the sky is falling.

http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2006/08/30/irrational-exuberance-the-real-estate-bubble-and-the-weakening-of-the-us-economy/

EDIT: Actually, I have to credit Wheatie with this link from another thread.