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All Forum Posts by: Scott S.

Scott S. has started 10 posts and replied 77 times.

Press Release SEC Charges Cash Flow King Podcast Host with Perpetrating $11 Million Ponzi Scheme

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2023-196

Washington D.C., Sept. 25, 2023 —

The Securities and Exchange Commission today charged Matthew Motil, host of the podcast, “The Cash Flow King,” for fraudulently raising approximately $11 million from more than 50 investors in a Ponzi scheme involving notes that were purportedly backed by residential properties.

According to the SEC’s complaint, Motil, of North Olmsted, Ohio, defrauded investors with promises of low-risk, high-return promissory notes purportedly collateralized by first mortgages on homes located throughout Ohio. The SEC’s complaint alleges that Motil promoted the investments on his website, inviting potential investors to “be a real estate investing badass!,” and on his podcast, where he assured investors that the investments he offered were safe and backed by a “first lien position” on the underlying real estate assets. According to the SEC’s complaint, Motil told investors that he would pay the investors returns on their investments from profits from renovating, reselling, refinancing, and renting the properties. As the complaint alleges, however, Motil did not in fact secure first lien positions for the investors as promised and regularly sold multiple promissory notes he claimed were secured by the same property to multiple investors. In one instance, Motil allegedly sold more than $1 million of promissory notes to 20 investors, each note supposedly collateralized by the same property he had acquired for $47,000. Rather than renovate the properties, Motil allegedly used investor money to make Ponzi payments to previous investors and for his own extravagant personal expenses, including to rent a lakeside mansion, purchase courtside season tickets to NBA games, and make $400,000 in credit card payments for his wife, Amy Motil, who is named as a relief defendant.

"We allege that Motil used podcasts and social media platforms to bolster his reputation as an investing expert while fraudulently targeting investors' hard-earned retirement assets, including, in at least one instance, almost the full balance of an investor's self-directed IRA," said Mark Cave, Associate Director of the Division of Enforcement. "We are committed to holding those who prey on others accountable for their unlawful conduct."

The SEC’s complaint, filed in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Ohio, charges Motil with violating the registration and antifraud provisions of the Securities Act of 1933 and the antifraud provisions of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. The complaint seeks injunctive relief, disgorgement plus prejudgment interest, civil money penalties, and an officer and director bar.

The SEC’s Office of Investor Education and Advocacy has issued an Investor Alert with tips on how investors can avoid become a victim of fraud in self-directed IRAs.

The SEC’s ongoing investigation is being supervised by Jeff Leasure and Mr. Cave. The SEC’s litigation will be led by John Timmer under the supervision of James Carlson. The SEC acknowledges the assistance of the U.S. Trustee’s Office, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of Ohio, and the Ohio Division of Securities.

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2023-196

Post: Matt Motil Cleveland Private Money

Scott S.Posted
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 91

It's concerning that Bigger Pockets admins continue to leave all of Matt Motil's classified ads here on BP where he was fishing for victims for his Ponzi Scheme.
https://www.biggerpockets.com/posts/user/mattmotil 

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2023-196

Post: WARNING: Matt Motil of Cleveland, OH

Scott S.Posted
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 91

SEC officially charged Matt Motil with fraudulently raising approximately $11 million from more than 50 investors in a Ponzi scheme involving notes that were purportedly backed by residential properties.

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2023-196

One of the easiest ways to get into the STR game in Leavenworth is to buy a condo in the tourist commercial zone. There are a few areas like the Alpine Village, Icicle Village, etc., that you can buy condos and rent them for less than 30 days no problem. It's designated for short-term. There have been a few condos go on the market lately at Alpine Village but they go fast and usually for around the $600,000+ range for a 2bed / 2bath, 1,000 sq ft place. (these condos have nearly tripled in value over the last 10 yrs due to a huge part of the AirBnb trend).

Here is one that just hit the market this week: https://www.redfin.com/WA/Leav...

However, STR and vacation homes are NOT allowed in any of the Residential Zone Districts of the city, the multi-family zone or its Urban Growth Area.

I'm from the area and personally, I like Leavenworth the best for the STR strategy because it's a true 4 season destination, there is very, very limited stay options and it's just a few hours from Seattle (no flights needed). Many people who can't book a stay in Leavenworth often have to book a hotel in Wenatchee. While I love Lk Chelan and it's always booked solid it's really just a summer spot so you are banking on just 3-4 months.

If you are seeking more of a cabin experience I would look into the Ponderosa community which is about 15 miles north of Leavenworth. They allow STR. https://www.ponderosacommunity...

Post: The Market Crash 🤔 or lack thereof ?

Scott S.Posted
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 91
Quote from @Peter Mckernan:
Quote from @Anthony Michael:

We've all seen the fear mongering that's being pushed by a lot of media outlets and influences. My question is are their thoughts justified in the current housing market. Due to Bigger Pockets being very diverse one would assume that someone's market is having a downturn of home sales right ? I'm in Fort Lauderdale and stuff is still flying off the shelve. Even where my fix and flip company is in Clearwater, it's the same story there. Is Florida the outlier where a housing market correction can't happen? How's your market doing where you operate ? This is purely speculative post no suggestion anything is or will happen in the market just looking for opinions and to see what others have to share! 


 I have not been in real estate through a big market crash (2008); however, I believe that the rates moving up are something that will effect the first time buyer's that are right there on the cusp already. The ones that cannot really get in at the prices now and they were able to with the lower interest rates, which now they are changing and the buyer's that really wanted something that have 10% down or 20% down now really have a chance they can just be a little more picky (not a lot because inventory is not going to flood the market). The thing you need to watch is the inventory, the inventory is the one thing that will dictate what goes on and with everyone in their home sitting at a 2.75% interest rate we'll see a kind of "Cold War" stall in the market with no one moving and the only ones getting in are ones that need a home that have not bought a home yet. 

 I have been thinking about this significant rate increase and how it will impact those wanting to move or upgrade -- but don't want to lose their 2-3% rate.  I'm in this camp right now.  I'd like to sell my current home for a larger one with more space but giving up my low 3% rate for 5.5%+ would dramatically increase my expenses.  So we sit tight for now.  How will this affect inventory levels?  

Maybe assumable fixed mortgages will make a comeback? My parents did this when they bought one of their homes in the 70's during the 10%+ rate times. They assumed the loan from the seller at their 5% rate. I'd rather have that option than a risky ARM like many are doing now.

Post: 9 Bed 4 Bath House Rented by the Room!

Scott S.Posted
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 91

Congrats!  What can you get per room and what do the overall numbers look like?

Post: Multi Family Cap Rates and Valuation?

Scott S.Posted
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 91

@Andrew Gingerich I noticed that 30 unit for $4.1M a few weeks ago and your math is pretty close. The gross is just under $300k yr and the NOI is $194k. The CAP rate = 4.7%... that is pretty much in-line with the Wenatchee Valley market. Not sure where you are getting the 7 cap valuation but those days are for the most part long gone for multi-family on the West coast.

Post: Luxury or cheaper rental to start?

Scott S.Posted
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 91

My vote is #1 for many reasons.  I'm guessing you are looking at the Roslyn Ridge community?  It's a much more desirable location year round and big $$$ has been flowing east of the mountains for quite some time now.  The property is also brand new so maintenance costs will be much lower.  You won't have to worry about short-term rental laws in that area.  It was designed to be a vacation destination.  You'll also likely see higher appreciation.  Long Beach, Ocean Shores, Westport area just hasn't seen the same RE gains and I don't expect things to change.  Suncadia + many parts of Eastern WA (Leavenworth, Lk Wenatchee/Plain, Chelan, Wenatchee are becoming even more popular for Westside folks to travel to get their Vitamin D fill.  It's a totally different climate yet it feels like you are in a different state.  While I love and enjoy the WA beaches it's mostly just during the summer months (unless there is a clam dig during winter).  Cle Elum area will always be an attractive destination for winter AND summer months. Skiing, snowmobiling, mountain biking, motorcycle riding, fishing, hiking, swimming, golfing, etc.  

40% of booking fees may seem like a lot (I see similar rates in Hawaii) but as long as the numbers still work, why not?  Sounds like a pretty good mostly hands-off investment with the on-site management.  Long Beach will likely be more challenging finding and keeping long-term management, cleaners, etc.

I love Chelan and visit every summer but the bulk of your reservations are going to be between May - labor day.  And the most desirable parts of Chelan on the water are big $$$$.  For year round bookings I'd take a serious look into Leavenworth.  Obviously, you'll need to understand the short-term laws and boundaries.  There are a couple small communities just north of Leavenworth in Plain area that allow short-term vacation rentals (Chiwawa River Pines, Ponderosa Pines) but AirBnB guests typically won't have access to the amenities like the pool, etc.

Can you be more specific on the gross and net numbers, ROI of the Suncadia location?
  

Post: The Hottest Real Estate Markets (Last 3 Years)

Scott S.Posted
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 91
Originally posted by @Nick Gerli:
Originally posted by @Scott S.:
Originally posted by @Nick Gerli:

Most of these markets are in either Mountain or Southwest regions. 

How does everyone feel about these markets moving forward? Is anyone invested in these markets? Do we think they will keep appreciating?

Just curious, what is the source of this data? 

 Zillow!

 Thanks, can you link to it?  I can't seem to find it on Zillow.  I'm just wondering what criteria they used (single family/condo, population, etc).  I'm surprised the Seattle / Tacoma / Portland metro areas didn't make the top 10 of that list.

For example, Tacoma single family homes median value have increased 48% in the last 3 years ($271k > $402k) using Zillow's data below.  That would have easily ranked it #2 in the top 10 list above.  

https://www.zillow.com/tacoma-...

Post: The Hottest Real Estate Markets (Last 3 Years)

Scott S.Posted
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 91
Originally posted by @Nick Gerli:

Most of these markets are in either Mountain or Southwest regions. 

How does everyone feel about these markets moving forward? Is anyone invested in these markets? Do we think they will keep appreciating?

Just curious, what is the source of this data?