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All Forum Posts by: Bryan Mitchell

Bryan Mitchell has started 38 posts and replied 563 times.

Post: Out of State Investing - Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee?

Bryan Mitchell
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  • Columbus, GA
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@Tanya Ansari, I can offer some suggestions for cash flowing markets. Please PM so I can link you up with the right organizations.

Post: Syndicate or Four Plex

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Quote from @Evan Polaski:

@Nicole Rogers, like others, I am not entirely sure where the loan is coming into the picture to make the syndication investment.  

A few points to hit: you MIGHT make more money on multifamily, or you might lose it all.  Same could be said with a syndication.

But talking 4 family: 75% LTV, means you are buying a 4plex for $100k. In many cities (thinking MSA populations of over 1mm), a $100k purchase price fourplex is going to be in a VERY rough area. And of course, rural markets have fewer potential renters to draw from, so could be hard to keep occupied. Secondly, a $100k property could very well come with a significant amount of deferred maintenance, and labor and materials are both expensive and harder to come by.

A syndication has its own risks too, but the point being: I looked at a $400k fourplex last weekend.  I would have been lucky to stabilize at an 8% cash on cash return, self managing, and knowingly under reserving capex.  If I hired a manager, I would be down to 5-6%, while still taking capex risk.  So the point being, I think with how hot the market is these days, and how risky a $100k property is in my market, I would feel more confident in the syndication, assuming this is an experienced syndicator with a strong track record and buying in strong markets and submarkets.

While I consider myself in the "growth phase" as Bryan mentions it.  In my decade of owning rentals, I have realized that there is a lot of risk in owning small scale rentals directly.  At the end of the day, your wealth grows by transacting, not by holding.

I forget which episode of the Best Real Estate Investing Show Ever, but Joe felt that you can make a higher return on your own apartment. Of course that was a few years ago and there are way more syndicators today than 2016/17 when the episode aired. It would be interesting to look at the data of owning a 30 unit complex vs investing the down payment in a syndication. Both Joe Fairless and Brian Murray bought (and Brandon Turner) owned and operated their medium sized MF properties So it worked well for them, but those were smaller and/or less expensive markets than today. Again, I know that syndications specifically target high net worth busy professionals for good reason. I can appreciate the additional opportunities that are available today. When I got started in 2006, it seemed so much harder. 

Post: Syndicate or Four Plex

Bryan Mitchell
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@Nicole Rogers, both can be passive investments, but syndications are typically more passive than the standard buy and hold. As a buy-and-hold investor you certainly have more options (think exit strategies). With syndications you’re locked in for a period of time usually five years. I think syndications work extremely well for wealth preservation for high net worth individuals. As you can see many of the syndications target accredited investors. Accredited investors (think high net worth) are often more concerned with wealth preservation versus those who were in the acquisition/build phase of their lives. Where are you and what is your timeline and what do you like most about investing in RE? For example, if you love the thrill of the hunt and searching for great deals, stay a buy and hold investor. If you’re extremely busy in your day job and you don’t have the time or energy to be actively engaged in real estate investing, syndications makes sense. If you’re high net high net worth individual such as a dentist or a doctor or a lawyer, syndications look very appealing.

Post: SDIRA + Syndication Deal(s)

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Quote from @Bill Muchow:

@Todd Goedeke You have my attention, that's a very creative play. Any suggestions on where I can gain more info?

Yes, that’d be helpful. 

Post: Finding My First Duplex

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  • Columbus, GA
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Have you identified the specific areas of the city that have the type of property you want? You can start driving those areas and build out a list to call on. 

Post: Storage Space Mentor/getting started

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@Mason Haley, both @Henry Clark and @Paul Moore have provided excellent yet different insights. I’d recommend you go visit one Henry’s and one of Paul’s equity groups SS investments as part of your study to help you decide which suits you best. Henry already offered to show you now let’s see if Paul will do the same. 

Post: SDIRA + Syndication Deal(s)

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Equity Trust is another that claims to be the best when it comes to RE. 

Post: Raising Capital in a Fearful Market

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  • Columbus, GA
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Quote from @Chris Levarek:

@Blake Pieroni It's risk mitigation. The far greater risk at the moment for those with capital is to sit tight. Double digit inflation and devaluation of the dollar is the biggest risk. Investing in real assets and commodities on the other hand are a much better choice.

It is always about capital preservation for those with capital. Not talking about the first time investor here, but rather the large investor looking to preserve capital and seeking tax deferral or shelter.

@Chris Levarek, excellent point about the value of capital preservation. However, I’m sure that the vast majority of BP members are smaller investors 0-3 units and are trying to build wealth and not preserve it. Those accredited investors with high net worth and with $200K+ to invest may be benefit more than others from syndications or JVs to avoid losing $ to inflation. Also, high net worth folks will likely pay closer attention to investments that offer more beneficial tax benefits because they literally have more to lose.  

Post: Raising Capital in a Fearful Market

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Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Scott E.:

The stock market has been experiencing a ton of pain YTD but I wouldn't consider there to be any fear in the real estate market, let alone extreme fear.

Rising interest rates will inevitably slow appreciation, but it's anybody's guess as to whether or not this time will lead to a correction or a crash.

All I can speak to is my own local market, but raising capital is not a problem right now. There is way more money waiting to be deployed than there are deals available. And I don't see that changing anytime in the near future.


 This^^^ And I'm not even sure that these approaching high-inflation times will slow appreciation across the board. The REI business has always been a case-by-case type of business and now it is more important than ever to be a smart investor.

He’s talking about appreciation at a macro level. I believe this to be true as well or put another way, highly likely. However, appreciation even if it slows will be different (aka more or less) depending on the market. I think every investor understands this at this point. It’s like someone saying there is currently “high inflation“. I intuitively know that they’re speaking from the macro level, however one could argue that there are several areas that aren’t experiencing “high inflation“.

Post: Seeking position to learn about apartment complex investing.

Bryan Mitchell
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  • Columbus, GA
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Quote from @Alex Penry:

What companies or individuals would go to/ask to find this position? 

Have you created a profile on LinkedIn? I did a search and there are several remote positions looking for someone to perform like duties.

 https://www.linkedin.com/compa...