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All Forum Posts by: Bill Brady

Bill Brady has started 4 posts and replied 20 times.

Post: Not CAN, but SHOULD I use my 401K?

Bill BradyPosted
  • Smyrna, GA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by Scott W.:
@ Steven Hamilton II - Even consider a ROTH IRA. Because after 5 years you can remove the principal from the Roth IRA without any penalty.

This is not true? You can take any principal at any time without a penalty. You're a CPA so you know this better than I but everything I've read says otherwise.

A ROTH is different from the Traditional in that you can, indeed, take the principle out after 5 years penalty free. Just read up on this yesterday.

This is all good information....thanks BP fam.

Post: Not CAN, but SHOULD I use my 401K?

Bill BradyPosted
  • Smyrna, GA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 0

Got it. Yah...I'm definitely not thinking about cashing out. I'm thinking more about taking out a loan against it instead.

Post: Not CAN, but SHOULD I use my 401K?

Bill BradyPosted
  • Smyrna, GA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 0

Great info Steve...thank you. Out of curiosity, how did he take a 45% hit? Was it a cash out and he took the tax hit or was it something else?

Post: Not CAN, but SHOULD I use my 401K?

Bill BradyPosted
  • Smyrna, GA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 0

Those were my thoughts too...didnt know if I was missing something else. Thank you so much for the reply.

Post: Not CAN, but SHOULD I use my 401K?

Bill BradyPosted
  • Smyrna, GA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 0

I've tried to find the answer to this question over the past few days and have been unsuccessful. Everywhere I've read, including on BP, it's a "YES!!!...you CAN use your 401k to invest in RE" (rollover SEP-IRA, borrow, cash out, etc.) but nowhere can I find out if you SHOULD use it. I'm curious as to whether the longterm impact on taking money out of your 401k would somehow negate any return on investment you receive from a cash-flow positive rental.

If all numbers work out with a 15% CAP rate, $1000 cash-flow, 40% cash on cash return, etc....is there a true downside to using your 401k as a down-payment on a property? Are their any horror stories out there?

That's the word on the street :) Thanks, Bill!

Originally posted by Charles Morgan:
Actually, I tried to refinance one of my homes this year with Quicken.
Home was appraised at $89,000 in 2006 for a refi. The Quicken appraiser put it at $63,000 this year. The appraiser based it on three foreclosures, closest was about 2 miles away, even though he also had two actual sales very close to me at $88,000 and $93,000. Needless to say I will never consider using Quicken again.

Whew...good information. They were actually on my list to call. I think I'm going to stay away from the big banks the next time around...they don't seem to want the business as badly as the smaller guys.

Originally posted by Charles Morgan:
Quickest way to get an idea would be to have your realtor do a quick Comps on it. If that looks good you may want to try another appraisal.

Thank you, Charles...starting the process on that and we'll see where it takes us. Have you ever come across a scenario like this?

....I don't have $30,000 PLUS 25% that I can put down....

Hello BP Family!

I found a great opportunity in a city just outside of Atlanta (Smyrna) for a duplex which ends up being about 4 minutes away from my house. Great location and, by my calculations, expected rent, 8.4% vacancy, maintenance, etc...the monthly cash flow would be about $800 - $900 per month.

Problem: The accepted offer on the duplex is $107,000 with 25% down. The bank ordered appraisal via Bank of America came back at $77,000.

So, yes....I'm frustrated because of the low appraised value of the house but that's not my issue. My issue is that I don't believe the $500+ appraisal was done correctly. Out of 6 comparables, the closest one was 1.22 miles away. The next was 4.85...the next 6.5...the next 8.65 miles away and so on. For those that know Smyrna (closer to Vinings area), you know that a "comparable" property in Austell cannot come close to a similar value.

FURTHERMORE, the appraisal took 20 days to complete. By the time I received the low-ball appraisal, it put me outside of my contracted financing contingency which now puts my $2000 earnest money in jeopardy.

I feel like I'm up the proverbial creek....any advice?