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All Forum Posts by: Ben Smith

Ben Smith has started 1 posts and replied 3 times.

Post: What should we do?

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The unethical actions of many others have put "all" ethical people in the financial/realestate situation that we "all" find ourselves in as a country and beyond. And just as I have said before, This unethical train that has destroyed the financial/realestate back bone and in my opinion has done away with "Giving ones word"~ That is what got us into this mess in the first place, others "Dishonest unethical Words and ideas". When all are not playing by the same ethical rules (especialy to the degree that they have sunk), the rules no longer apply! In some situations the snakes venom is also the cure! After much of the discussion here, it seems that my decision is a business one and that is it, I don't think that anyone that has posted here would let someone screw them out of 120,000 to 150,000+(give the market 3 to 6 more months) and say, I decided to play the ethical card, even though the screw you card was played from the other side~ you would be a fool! Thanks to all that have posted comments and ideas, as after all we are all entitled to our own. Thanks again for your thoughts and ideas "ethical or not", I appriciate them~

Post: What should we do?

Ben SmithPosted
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Well Mike~
Protery/realestate, living in it or not, is not an investment but Just an idea that has been passed around for the past few years? Very Interesting, and I don't subscribe to that train of thought. Realestate is always an investment. And for the aggreed value of what I purchased, you are right, I felt then that it was worth the amount agreed upon, but that was before the "Bank" the "Broker" or "Wallstreet" or whoever decided to give mort loans to the Monkeys to the right and left of me and 25-30% of the the rest of the subdivision and America for that matter a loan without checking income, credit, or even if they had a job! This unethical reckless behavior has now cut (investment/porperty) what was once worth X amount of $ in to about half, Is this my fault? When you say "Honor your responsibilities and your word and pay your bills" it seems you are attacking my morals and ethics, what about the morals and ethics and even the "good word" of thoes in the financial sector?!?! Don't tell me for a seccond that if any kind of financial wallstreet corporation found themselves in the same kind of investment/situation that they would keep their "word". This is business and that is it! We agreed to a financial contract and in that contract they get their house back if I forclose, I get a credit hit and a "F" on my reccord. Just as in times of war, rules change that once you could never imagine living by. The financial situations or war that many are finding themselves in (by no fault of their own, as my Mort has been paid in full each and every month I have ever lived in a home) are and will be devestating to so many, you would be a fool to let an unethical train run you over in the name of beeing "moral" or "ethical" or even keeping your word. It takes two to Keep a contract! Just as they do not garantee that the value of the purchased property, I never garanteed that I would keep paying. They set up the rules and we are made to feel guilty and unethical if we do not keep our end~ who are we kidding!?! In the end it seems, they must have had the same monkey that thought, No-dock, liar loans, and option arms were a good idea draft the punishment to the buyer for forclosure. I am just exercising my rights underthe laws that they set up. Call it what you will~ in the end, it is just business!

Post: What should we do?

Ben SmithPosted
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Our story starts over two years ago. We moved to the Atlanta area from out west with a job transfer and bought a new home in a subdivision that at the time was building and selling homes at a rapid pace. We purchased the home for $289,000 with an 80/20 30 year conventional loan. Not long after we had moved in, the building and selling slowed and came to a halt several months later. Over the last year and a half, the condition of what we thought was a great investment has turned very ugly to say the least. For whatever reason, our subdivision has been hit very hard by forclosures. Add to the pot that three or more of the original builders have also forclosed on many brand new homes in the subdivision (30+, 14 even on one street). The house to the right and to the left of ours have both gone through forclousure and have new owners in them each for 168,000 and 175,000, keeping in mind that both of thoes homes sold for 285,000 and 292,000 just two short years ago. The streets in 75% of the subdivision are not finnished with the top coat of pavement, and I have been told that they will not until the whole subdivision is at least 80% compleete. They are falling apart, with pot holes that are beeing filled in with sand. Between the above grade manhole covers sticking up every where and the recent pothole issue, the streets into the subdivision are an eyesore to say the least, with no end in sight as there are about 60 builders lots that are just left to weeds (one with a unfinished house that is molding/rotting as it has never had any brick for over a year). And don't take my next comment the wrong way, but the "new" Homeowners that are buying homes for $150.000 in what was a $300,000 subdivision 2 short years ago are not helping the situation of declining property values, with their Lack of care in landscapeing, bed sheets hung in the windows in place of blinds and more jalopies parked on the street than a used car lot. And these new neighbors are paying close to half the mortgauge that I am locked into. What do we do? I would never have even thought of the "F" word as something that I would do, but this home and this subdivision are not going to get better, they drop in value every day. I have already lost $110,000 in home value, and I am trying to understand how this is my fault, and how I should be held responsible to pay my Mort for the next 30 years on a property that is so upside-down! I don't know how to figure it exactly to a $ amount of loss, but I know that starting with that kind of negitave equity in a subdivision that will most likely never recover to what I thought I bought into seems like a devestating investment/situation. Who is to blame? What is someone like me to do? Are Morals and Ethics in play anymore in this market and economy (as the lack there of has led us all to this)? In the end I have to do what is best for my family and My financial future, and that right now seems to be to walk away! I could rent a compareable house for half of what I am paying on my current mort and not have the 110,000 (or more before the bottom comes). Sure, My credit would be knocked to 450 and I would have a forclosure on my reccord, But I would also have droped that "Huge Loss" (That was not of my makeing) and will have a savings of 1,100 a month between rent and the old mort to put towards a house when the forclosure drops off ($40,000+). Is this not a nobrainer? Will any bank approve a short sale on such a loss? Any thoughts from any realestate professionals would be appriciated?