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All Forum Posts by: Benjamin Ficker

Benjamin Ficker has started 3 posts and replied 38 times.

Post: Multifamily State of the Market Spring 2022

Benjamin FickerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 22

You are invited to our Virtual Spring Market Update!

Multi-family owners have faced many challenges over the few years and things are finally starting to ease up.

Benjamin Ficker, Multi-family Broker with Equity Pacific Real Estate, will update you on the resale market (Interest Rates are up... How is that affecting demand?)

Our property management expert Dan Hayes, owner of Real Property Management Solutions, will give you an update on the tenant assistant programs and guidance on what you can do to start moving your rents in the right direction!

I am very excited to have you join us on Thursday May 26th at 12pm PST.​

I want this webinar to be of value to you, so if you have any unique scenarios, or specific questions that you want answered, please send me an email ahead of time. We will do our best to make sure that we get it answered for you.

Post: Is Portland, OR a good place for Real Estate Investing

Benjamin FickerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 22

Hey Ali, The answer to your question really depends on your goals. If you are looking for a purchase based on current cashflows, Portland can be a tough market. If you are looking for a value-add deal, Portland has a lot of opportunity. A lot of my clients are excited about Portland in the long run, but they know that most of the deals are going to take some work and the payoff is in the sweat equity, not the month to month cash flow.

Post: Cap Rate calculation

Benjamin FickerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 22

Get the book "What Every Real Estate Investor Needs to Know About Cash Flow... And 36 Other Key Financial Measures" by Frank Gallinelli

The question should be written "when calculating Cap Rate what is included in the Operating Expenses?" NOI is the result of Gross Income minus operating expenses. NOI / Total price gives you the Cap Rate. Short answer is no. Debt Service and Cap Ex are not included in your operating expenses. But really read that book and learn these formulas inside and out. It'll put you far ahead of the competition when you can run through them quickly. (Also, don't use Cap Rate on anything 4 units and under. Too easy to fudge those numbers if you're the seller.)

Post: Offer before seeing property?

Benjamin FickerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 22
Originally posted by @Connor Macon:

@Benjamin Ficker what is the best way to write a contract to accommodate no showing? Are the sellers/sellers agents expecting non-refundable or refundable earnest money deposits?

 We usually write the offer subject to interior inspection of all units and the property in its entirety (in the event the tenant doesn't let you in to one of the rooms, for example) within 72 hours of mutual acceptance.  Buyer to approve or disapprove of interior inspection within 24 hours and earnest money to be deposited within 24 business hours of written approval of interior inspection.  All of this fits within your regular timeline for professional inspections.  So if you had 10 business days, get the walkthrough done on day 2 deposit EM on day 3/4 professional inspection on day 7-8 (whatever) and move forward as usual.  Obvious caveat... Not an attorney or your agent (or licensed in your area).  You may need/want your own specific verbiage written for that contingency.

Post: Offer before seeing property?

Benjamin FickerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 22

@Annette Wanamaker

I'm a multi-family broker and we ONLY do offers subject to interior inspection.  Think about the logistics to notify every tenant and get them on the same schedule to allow a viewing.  Especially in a hot market, you'd be posting notices every day.  Its unworkable.
What I tell buyers is that they need to make an offer that works for them with what's been disclosed.  If you discover other issues upon interior inspection, or professional inspection, then negotiate from there.

Post: Newbie Vancouver,WA multifamily options

Benjamin FickerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 22

Hi Julie, I'm a multi-family broker here in the Portland metro area.  Happy to chat about what we've seen in the market for our investors.  Keep in mind that 20% down wont cut it for anything over 5 units.  You may get someone to carry a note with that but not conventional financing.  We do a lot of marketing to 4+ units in Clark County.  Let me know if you have more details on what your timeline is and what you're looking for.

Post: Newbie from Portland Oregon

Benjamin FickerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 22

Hi Kayla, I'm a multi-family broker here in town.  Let me know if you have any questions about targeting multi-family in our metro area. 

Post: Portland Property Management

Benjamin FickerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 22

Dan Hayes

Real Property Management Solutions

Dan invests himself so he brings a good perspective to the process that many PMs don’t. 

Shoot me a message for his direct contact info. 

Post: Jumping into commercial multifamily?

Benjamin FickerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 22

Are these generally accurate statements?

When going for commercial loans I can expect to pay a point or more over a typical loan, and may need to have 30% down to get financing. It will also be unlikely to get a 30yr loan and instead I can expect a 15 or 20yr loan.

We run our pro-formas at 5.5% and a 25 year am. Most lenders we talk to want at least 30% down. The key is the Debt Coverage Ratio. Should be at least 1.2, we shoot for 1.25 on our numbers. With that said, we just had a client refinance a 5-unit instead of sell because he was able to get a 4.6% rate. 

The property details are more important than my details, so my credit score, income, and other assets are unlikely to impact loan terms for the better.

Yes, more important but your details are still vital to getting approved. Experience matters. 

A commercial loan under or near 1M is considered a small commercial loan, and I may struggle to find a loan provider.

Yes, but there are lenders out there. Maybe not a lot of decent commercial properties out there at that price, but they are out there. 

I've been reading that commercial multifamily between 5 to 10 units adds a lot of headache without really leveraging any economies of scale. Larger than that is when you really start seeing benefits with efficiencies.

I would say that about 5-7 unit properties. 8-10 definitely work better, but just not as good as a 20 unit.

The 1-2%/50% "rules" are still applicable to multifamily properties for quickly judging expenses before digging more. I should have the benefit of getting accurate expense and income data for any real property to validate cap rate and other information.

We don’t see many on market deals that hit the 1-2% rule. We run expenses at 35-45% of market rents for our pro-formas. I’ve sold deals where expenses were 70% of actual numbers. Raise your rents people. Has to go cash or private at that point. Value drops for sure. 

Property management costs are similar to what they are for a SFH (10%/mo + placement fee) until you get to a certain number of units where it then makes sense to hire an employee.

Yes.

Insurance costs will be proportionally more than a SFH/4plex in the area would. e.g. If insurance was 5% for a SFH, it may be 15% for a commercial multifamily.

That feels very high to me, though i don't have a recent deal in front of me at the moment. I'd focus on the overall expense ratio and DCR.

Some specific questions I have:

Will most lenders be hesitant/refuse to loan to me as a sole investor with no commercial history despite any starting capital I may have?

If you have rental experience, you’ll find a lender. 

If 1M is too small to get a loan/favorable rates, what is typically the starting point for better rates?

Your rate won’t significantly drop at higher price points. The deal I mentioned above was a 5 unit valued at $950k, refinanced at a 4.6% rate.

Am I overlooking any major differences between SFH and commercial multifamily other than "everything costs more"?

Haven’t heard you mention it, but keep in mind the major benefit of commercial multi-family is your ability to reposition. Much easier to do than with single family. A little rent increase and a little expense efficiency goes a long way towards overall value.

Also keep in mind SB 608 and how it will change financing coming up. Under market rents will severely limit your potential immediate upside.

Backstory:

...My original plan to do that was by investing in 3 and 4-plex units while leveraging FHA loans but...

Great plan.

...it is very difficult to find a cash flowing 3-4 plex...

Very difficult to find with actual numbers. Almost everyone who makes money in this market recognizes that it is a 2 step process to acquire and then raise rents to hit a return/cash flow. We shoot for a 5% cash on cash return on pro-forma number when we bring something to market. We end up with a quick sale and often multiple offers in this scenario.

This has caused me to look outside of the local area for residential multifamily properties. 

Even just the suburbs of Portland will get you drastically better cash on cash returns, though appreciation still makes the core desirable for some. 

It then occurred to me that since I would not be getting a FHA loan, and I would need to deal with a remote purchase/management regardless of if it was a SFH, 4-plex, or 50 unit building that there is no reason to stick with my original framework.

It's looking more and more like commercial is the better path to my long term real estate goals. 

1-4 Units for building equity, exchange in to 10+ units for cash flow. Of course there are equity place in larger properties, but this is a good general strategy. 

Post: Portland, OR rental market - Am I naive?

Benjamin FickerPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 22

@Josh Gardner  There's cashflow properties here.  They aren't duplexes or triplexes (if on the market).  Like @Mike Nuss said above, you have to do the work to find the off market gems.  I think SB 608 is actually going to provide quite a bit of opportunity, though you will need to be doing more value add deals than turn key.  

I think it will take a few months for sellers to figure out their values with the inability to bring rents to market levels.  That's when I'd make moves.