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All Forum Posts by: Ben C.

Ben C. has started 119 posts and replied 362 times.

Post: Hiring a GC Vs Subbing out work yourself?!

Ben C.Posted
  • Metuchen, NJ
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 27
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

It is a full time job managing people, especially contractors. Expect to save 30% and take 50% more of your time. 

 @Eliott Elias you think on a 500k rehab budget you are saving 100-150k? Also, I have the experience as I said but I don’t have the knowledge where I can sit there and have a conversation about the intricacies of foundation/framing technicalities…

Post: Hiring a GC Vs Subbing out work yourself?!

Ben C.Posted
  • Metuchen, NJ
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 27

I’ve done new construction projects and multiple jobs down the studs with additions.

Now I’m getting towards my 6th project and wondering if it makes sense to be the GC. 

Im not looking to do any work but simply sub out the work myself to cut out the middle man and save 25-30%? 

I know the framers, electricians etc and thinking it might make sense. 

I’ve also got everything down by now (in terms of what order everything happens etc). 

Would also be nice to not be beholden to a GC in terms of when guys show up etc.

What do you all think?

Post: GCing your own projects

Ben C.Posted
  • Metuchen, NJ
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 27
Quote from @Aaron Porter:

I am going to agree with a lot of what everyone else has already said.  But I have a caveat.  similar to financial mentors.  Like Robert Kiyosaki says and this is so true.  When you are poor Suze Orman is your go to.  When you are stable but don't have a lot of excess money every month Dave Ramsey is the mentor for you.  then as you become more wealthy you need to switch your approach again and build a team because rich people aren't scared of debt, they aren't scared of paying for expertise, because they realize that even though everything costs something on their bottom line the benefit that they get by hiring help is time, and time is our most valuable commodity.  

When you are starting every dollar you spend matters, but as you grow and mature in your financial freedom the dollars that you save by hiring others allows you to leverage your time in other areas that may be more beneficial to you and your growth. 

As far as your original question about LLC's and business operations goes. Separate them. 1 company for the REI, and a completely separate company including bank accounts for the construction company. and make sure to never mix funds directly between the 2 companies otherwise you have broken the "corporate veil" and now even though you have 2 companies in the eyes of the legal system they are 1 and can both be held liable and responsible for anything happening in the other company.

Also make sure that your insurance is up to par.  Construction sites are a high hazard zone and there are workplace accidents on constructions sites constantly.


 While I understand everyone’s perspective when you are only working on 1-2 very high price point homes per year in the luxury market it is worth it. 30% on 2M…

Post: GCing your own projects

Ben C.Posted
  • Metuchen, NJ
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 27
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

This is fine if you are sure you have the necessary skills to run projects. You may have gained 'a lot of knowledge' but 4 projects is, in reality, nothing. So you will come across a lot of things that are new on every project...but hey, it's a good way to learn. :-)

The main things to be aware of are not really construction related, but more business related. 

#1 - make sure that everyone that sets foot on your site is covered under Workers Comp....have them all sign off on that. 

#2 - Check all Subs Contractors licenses and Liability insurance, get yourself listed as additional insured. 

#3 - Get Lien releases before you give anyone a final check.


@Bruce Woodruff thank you. All 4 have been new construction so thankfully more experience then minor rehabs. 

Post: GCing your own projects

Ben C.Posted
  • Metuchen, NJ
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 27
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

I've tried to GC my own projects, takes way too much time and keeps me distracted from the real goal. Finding deals, more power to you if you can seamlessly do this 

@Eliott Elias thank you for taking the time to reply to my post. How much money did you save? In my case I know for a fact that I can save 30% as I’ve priced it all out directly with competitive subs vs handing off to GC. so it’s enough that it’s worth headache. 

Post: GCing your own projects

Ben C.Posted
  • Metuchen, NJ
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 27
@Chris Seveney may I ask how you have that setup? In regards to how the money flows between the two etc? Both your companies have contracts with each other?


Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Ben C.

Separate businesses. Construction company only does construction and development company development

Post: GCing your own projects

Ben C.Posted
  • Metuchen, NJ
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 27

Hello,

I own an LLC (my development company under which I buy and sell properties) and just wrapping up my 4th new construction project. So fair to say I have gained a lot of knowledge.

As a result I have made the decision to GC my own projects going forward as I've seen first hand the huge cost savings that can be taken advantage of. 

How do all you developers set it up when you own GC your own projects?

In NJ you need to apply for the license, pay the fee and get insurance (that is it). 

Does your holding company "contract" with your holding company?

Not trying to re-invent the wheels but trying to project myself best I can in the simplest manner as I will be contracting directly with subs now. 

I was told to never have the "contracting" business and development/holding company joined together. 

Thanks!

Post: How are building inspections handled when subbing out work?

Ben C.Posted
  • Metuchen, NJ
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 27
Originally posted by @David Avery:

If the permit has the contractors name on it then he can handle the inspection.

Yes it is a hassle when the window of the inspection can be 600 am to 400 pm.

If you are lucky enough to get a relationship with the inspector he may give you a call 30 minuets prior to inspection.

So the framer can't handle the inspection (even though he is the one who actually did the work) only the general contractor who is listed on the permit jacket?

Post: How are building inspections handled when subbing out work?

Ben C.Posted
  • Metuchen, NJ
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 27

Hi,

I work in the Northern NJ and wondered from developers who sub out the work on New Construction (framing etc) how do you handle inspections? Do you have to be on-site or the sub you hire is responsible for waiting around all day on inspection day and handling that for you as part of the job?


I would prefer if they could handle the inspection as well since they will be able to answer any technical question from the inspector in the field best anyways. Just didn't know what was standard practice in this situation. Thanks guys. 

Post: Recommend A Contractor

Ben C.Posted
  • Metuchen, NJ
  • Posts 374
  • Votes 27

@Dennis Yosco what kind of work have you done with him? Website just mentions painting, basement remodels etc. doesn’t seem like a ground up construction guy.