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All Forum Posts by: Belén Cosenza

Belén Cosenza has started 1 posts and replied 6 times.

 I want to thank everyone for the much needed perspective. Maybe I’m just impatient but it’s because I’m new to the game…

Quote from @Mark Ainley:

@Belén Cosenza what neighborhood is this located?

I know this seems like a bad scenario, but you are learning more this way than with any other approach to learning REI. Don't focus on cash flow. Ask you CPA how much in write offs you are getting against your W2 income? How much principle is being paid down on the loan? You have 25% equity in a market that finding a deal is tough.

You just need to have a plan here...your thoughts in this thread are stressfully written so I am guessing that is the way they are arranged in your head. 

Positive

-75% LTV

-Breaking even

-Cant buy this property anywhere close to what you paid

-Tenant issues addressed

-You figured out what you dont like about a PM or PMs in general

-You have a dirt cheap interest rate

Issues

-No confident plan on how to turn around

-Need to address PM issues


 Hi Mark, this is in Cicero and I’ve always thought it was a good location which was part of why I bought it. It’s near a blue-line L stop and entrance to the highway.

Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:
Quote from @Belén Cosenza:
Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:
Quote from @Belén Cosenza:
Quote from @Paul De Luca:
Quote from @Belén Cosenza:

Hi everyone, 

I own a two unit building. I don’t live in it anymore so both units are rented. It more or less breaks even every month. The estimated value according to the internet puts it somewhere around 350k, and I owe 265k on it. I got it on the low 3’s % in 2020. I have 30k in credit card debt, part me and part big masonry repairs made to the building when I got it. Sucks.

Basically I went in hoping to BRRR, but I called a traditional lender and apparently I can't refinance because I still owe too much and the loan can't be more than 245k. So in short, my money is trapped. No BRRR.

Does this mean I made a mistake? I can’t tell WHERE I am standing with all this. Did I do something wrong? Is this part of the process and gotta give it time where time is due? Or should I sell, pay my debt and pretty much break even and start from scratch? It wouldn’t even be from scratch because this time around I wouldn’t be able to get a home owners loan. Now I have a family and we can’t move. 

I feel so lost, what did I do wrong? Why can’t I refinance to grow the way they put it everywhere? 

 How much work did you do to the property? I'm wondering how the property is only breaking even after getting a low rate and post rehab. If you can keep it, I would recommend doing that. But if you really need the cash then it may make sense to sell and pay off your debt.

Be careful with online automated home valuation tools - they can be pretty inaccurate and you want to estimate the market value off of the comps.

When I first bought it there was a big masonry repair. The units were pretty much turnkey but I had to fix the outside. Because the property did so well on paper I went for it thinking the cashflow could slowly pay it off but the truth is one way or the other something seems to eat that every month. The first year, 2020-2021 I had a tenant go delinquent for most of the pandemic. I had a horrible past year in which they double charged insurance and it caused my escrow to go bananas, and my payment went up $400. I only got to fix that this month. Now that that's settled, the net income is $3200 and the mortgage payment is $2400, but up to now I had been paying $2900, and the few hundred left always went somewhere like the utility bill or some repair. I made the mistake of getting a property manager, and I'm trying to rectify that before I incur more costs. 

So as it stands I get $3200 from rents. The mortgage on the building is now back to $2400. Both leases are up for renewal and I might be able to up that a bit. I've been trying to get washer and dryer in there so I can up the rents. 


 Everything that you do to the house would be paid at the end, especially if it's adding value add. Even if you spend 15k into that masonry, that's nothing in my experience, I don't see you do anything wrong LOL I was confused before on what was the issue :) other folks has serious problem like 250k student debt lol


 That does put it into perspective truly, but for a newbie on my first deal It's not very clear whether I'm headed the right way or if this is a train wreck I should jump from. My husband helped me set up a simple spreadsheet of the finances and it looks like it's working. This might boil down to me not keeping proper track of the finances rather than the performance of the building itself. I just got notice that the leases are renewing with an extra $50 each so the income will be $3300 now, against a mortgage payment of $2400. Everything in the middle seems what I'm not keeping good track off.

I now have to make roof repairs urgently because there's some cracks in the ceiling, water is coming in and we're just starting the mega raining season. I have more than enough available credit to finance that, the hope is that indeed month after month I have cashflow available to make a dent on the whole thing afterwards, which again on paper it looks like I do, but when it comes to the numbers in my accounts they always look way worse.


 If you make *any value add/improvement* for real estate that appreciates at least 4% per year, the return would be paid back after some time. You could sell it in the 5th year and you would get all your money back with big return, been doing this few times.

I am also a big money spender on improvement, this month alone I give a check to my handyman about $100k (bath remodeling/flooring/roof/solar/deck repair/exterior -interior painting/adding bathroom) , all paid with cash lol....haha.... I am lucky that I have spouse that's more aggressive on the investment side than me, but my spouse wants me to keep purchasing STR/condo and I end up paying all the repairs and bills LOL ....so I am fine with that LOL

Rather than buying luxury car I would rather spend 100k adding decks and bathroom LOL

 I'd definitely love to get to that point, it seems impossible to put together more than a few hundred bucks at a time before I have to use it. Maybe that's the cause of my anxiety. Right now it looks like a hamster wheel. I'm not sure whether I'm progressing.

Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:
Quote from @Belén Cosenza:
Quote from @Paul De Luca:
Quote from @Belén Cosenza:

Hi everyone, 

I own a two unit building. I don’t live in it anymore so both units are rented. It more or less breaks even every month. The estimated value according to the internet puts it somewhere around 350k, and I owe 265k on it. I got it on the low 3’s % in 2020. I have 30k in credit card debt, part me and part big masonry repairs made to the building when I got it. Sucks.

Basically I went in hoping to BRRR, but I called a traditional lender and apparently I can't refinance because I still owe too much and the loan can't be more than 245k. So in short, my money is trapped. No BRRR.

Does this mean I made a mistake? I can’t tell WHERE I am standing with all this. Did I do something wrong? Is this part of the process and gotta give it time where time is due? Or should I sell, pay my debt and pretty much break even and start from scratch? It wouldn’t even be from scratch because this time around I wouldn’t be able to get a home owners loan. Now I have a family and we can’t move. 

I feel so lost, what did I do wrong? Why can’t I refinance to grow the way they put it everywhere? 

 How much work did you do to the property? I'm wondering how the property is only breaking even after getting a low rate and post rehab. If you can keep it, I would recommend doing that. But if you really need the cash then it may make sense to sell and pay off your debt.

Be careful with online automated home valuation tools - they can be pretty inaccurate and you want to estimate the market value off of the comps.

When I first bought it there was a big masonry repair. The units were pretty much turnkey but I had to fix the outside. Because the property did so well on paper I went for it thinking the cashflow could slowly pay it off but the truth is one way or the other something seems to eat that every month. The first year, 2020-2021 I had a tenant go delinquent for most of the pandemic. I had a horrible past year in which they double charged insurance and it caused my escrow to go bananas, and my payment went up $400. I only got to fix that this month. Now that that's settled, the net income is $3200 and the mortgage payment is $2400, but up to now I had been paying $2900, and the few hundred left always went somewhere like the utility bill or some repair. I made the mistake of getting a property manager, and I'm trying to rectify that before I incur more costs. 

So as it stands I get $3200 from rents. The mortgage on the building is now back to $2400. Both leases are up for renewal and I might be able to up that a bit. I've been trying to get washer and dryer in there so I can up the rents. 


 Everything that you do to the house would be paid at the end, especially if it's adding value add. Even if you spend 15k into that masonry, that's nothing in my experience, I don't see you do anything wrong LOL I was confused before on what was the issue :) other folks has serious problem like 250k student debt lol


 That does put it into perspective truly, but for a newbie on my first deal It's not very clear whether I'm headed the right way or if this is a train wreck I should jump from. My husband helped me set up a simple spreadsheet of the finances and it looks like it's working. This might boil down to me not keeping proper track of the finances rather than the performance of the building itself. I just got notice that the leases are renewing with an extra $50 each so the income will be $3300 now, against a mortgage payment of $2400. Everything in the middle seems what I'm not keeping good track off.

I now have to make roof repairs urgently because there's some cracks in the ceiling, water is coming in and we're just starting the mega raining season. I have more than enough available credit to finance that, the hope is that indeed month after month I have cashflow available to make a dent on the whole thing afterwards, which again on paper it looks like I do, but when it comes to the numbers in my accounts they always look way worse.

Quote from @Paul De Luca:
Quote from @Belén Cosenza:

Hi everyone, 

I own a two unit building. I don’t live in it anymore so both units are rented. It more or less breaks even every month. The estimated value according to the internet puts it somewhere around 350k, and I owe 265k on it. I got it on the low 3’s % in 2020. I have 30k in credit card debt, part me and part big masonry repairs made to the building when I got it. Sucks.

Basically I went in hoping to BRRR, but I called a traditional lender and apparently I can't refinance because I still owe too much and the loan can't be more than 245k. So in short, my money is trapped. No BRRR.

Does this mean I made a mistake? I can’t tell WHERE I am standing with all this. Did I do something wrong? Is this part of the process and gotta give it time where time is due? Or should I sell, pay my debt and pretty much break even and start from scratch? It wouldn’t even be from scratch because this time around I wouldn’t be able to get a home owners loan. Now I have a family and we can’t move. 

I feel so lost, what did I do wrong? Why can’t I refinance to grow the way they put it everywhere? 

 How much work did you do to the property? I'm wondering how the property is only breaking even after getting a low rate and post rehab. If you can keep it, I would recommend doing that. But if you really need the cash then it may make sense to sell and pay off your debt.

Be careful with online automated home valuation tools - they can be pretty inaccurate and you want to estimate the market value off of the comps.

When I first bought it there was a big masonry repair. The units were pretty much turnkey but I had to fix the outside. Because the property did so well on paper I went for it thinking the cashflow could slowly pay it off but the truth is one way or the other something seems to eat that every month. The first year, 2020-2021 I had a tenant go delinquent for most of the pandemic. I had a horrible past year in which they double charged insurance and it caused my escrow to go bananas, and my payment went up $400. I only got to fix that this month. Now that that's settled, the net income is $3200 and the mortgage payment is $2400, but up to now I had been paying $2900, and the few hundred left always went somewhere like the utility bill or some repair. I made the mistake of getting a property manager, and I'm trying to rectify that before I incur more costs. 

So as it stands I get $3200 from rents. The mortgage on the building is now back to $2400. Both leases are up for renewal and I might be able to up that a bit. I've been trying to get washer and dryer in there so I can up the rents. 

Hi everyone, 

I own a two unit building. I don’t live in it anymore so both units are rented. It more or less breaks even every month. The estimated value according to the internet puts it somewhere around 350k, and I owe 265k on it. I got it on the low 3’s % in 2020. I have 30k in credit card debt, part me and part big masonry repairs made to the building when I got it. Sucks.

Basically I went in hoping to BRRR, but I called a traditional lender and apparently I can't refinance because I still owe too much and the loan can't be more than 245k. So in short, my money is trapped. No BRRR.

Does this mean I made a mistake? I can’t tell WHERE I am standing with all this. Did I do something wrong? Is this part of the process and gotta give it time where time is due? Or should I sell, pay my debt and pretty much break even and start from scratch? It wouldn’t even be from scratch because this time around I wouldn’t be able to get a home owners loan. Now I have a family and we can’t move. 

I feel so lost, what did I do wrong? Why can’t I refinance to grow the way they put it everywhere?