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All Forum Posts by: Brad Gibson

Brad Gibson has started 28 posts and replied 181 times.

Post: Mid-term rental pricing

Brad Gibson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Midland, TX
  • Posts 185
  • Votes 179
Quote from @Miguel Del Mazo:

Nick and Nicole are offering great advice.  MTRs are not LTRs or STRs,but rather they are their own little hybrid. 

My take on this is to underwrite purchases based on expected LTR rents (I like rentometer and the BP's own rental estimator), but start charging 1.5x that rent for your MTR. Go up as you are able between tenants. Our experience has been that most tenants book about two weeks out from a vacancy, so don't slash the price of your MTR too soon to your next ecpected vacancy(you will get nervous, I promise). Respond to "unmatched housing requests" as well as other tenant leads. You may learn a lot of valuable information about what people are looking for in your area. Lastly, running an MTR is partially hospitality (like STR), but it is also a sales position (like all commerce). Anyone in sales knows, you are going to have to be prepared for a lot of "Nos" to get to the "Yes".


 I would add to the "sales" portion of the advice above that timing is key.  When people are looking...they're looking.  So prompt responses to inquiries generally get the bookings.  When a request or even an unmatched housing request come through on FF, we jump on it like white on rice.  I send a text to introduce myself and ask if we can answer any questions about the listing or to support them in finalizing their booking.

We follow up with an e-mail reiterating the same information.  The longer the time between their initial request and your response, the less likely you are to get a booking.

People do not tend to really start looking for a place two weeks before their assignment begins.  Some are less than that if their agency is slow in finalizing things.  Hold your nerve and don't slash prices unless you're seeing some extended time without bookings.

Post: Mid-term rental pricing

Brad Gibson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Midland, TX
  • Posts 185
  • Votes 179
Quote from @Nicole Heasley Beitenman:

When I was starting, I found a resource in FF that suggested pricing $300-500 above LTR rates. I started at $500 over LTR rates and bumped it up $50 in between each tenant until I felt like I hit the ceiling.


 This is great advice.  We did exactly this and are now on our 10th MTR.  Some were purchased specifically to be MTRs & others were conversions when it made sense.  Start a specific amount above the going rate for LTR's.  Then incrementally move up.  You'll find your ceiling where people snag your unit and are happy versus it sitting empty.  If you've got people fighting over your listing and competition trying to get into the unit, then you're too low.  

We tend to stay just below our competition with a superior product.  It allows us to be picky on who we rent to and pass on those who would seem to be PITA or a risk for not taking care of the place.

Post: Management Software for STR

Brad Gibson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Midland, TX
  • Posts 185
  • Votes 179
Quote from @Sarah Kensinger:

For a small STR start up and easy to learn, check into Hospitable. I can't tell you how many hosts that have used multiple PMS said they are the easiest and switched back to Hospitable due to ease of use and low cost!

Thanks Sarah. I will take a look and give it a try. 


Post: Management Software for STR

Brad Gibson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Midland, TX
  • Posts 185
  • Votes 179
Quote from @Allen Duan:

We use Hostfully for nearly 30 listings. I can't say how it compares to the other platforms since I haven't used them. But I'm happy to provide inside on Hostfully. It's worked great for us the past few years and I don't have any plans on changing systems.


 Good stuff Allen. Reassuring since I’m leaning toward them. I already have my guest books through them. This hopefully would be a seamless addition. 

Post: Management Software for STR

Brad Gibson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Midland, TX
  • Posts 185
  • Votes 179
Quote from @Andrew Steffens:

We use Streamline but that is really built for Property Managers with larger portfolios.  We had Guest previously.  We liked it except they had some real issues with accounting but I heard they ironed that out.  They did have some very cool automations and other features.


Thanks for the feedback. I have 30 that we own and manage LTR. But are really just exploring STR's after a successful jump into MTR's.

I use FreshBooks for accounting, but it isn’t integrated into any PMS. We may need to make the jump eventually, but things are rolling Ok right now. 

Post: Management Software for STR

Brad Gibson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Midland, TX
  • Posts 185
  • Votes 179
Quote from @Calvin Baughman:
Quote from @Brad Gibson:

Does anyone have any recs for a management software for STR's?

I already use Hostfully guidebooks for a pair of MTR’s we are having great success with, but we simply manage the calendar and bookings between Airbnb and Furnished Finder. 

We are adding a STR to our portfolio in Arlington, TX in the entertainment district that is walking distance to Jerryworld and Globe Life Field & think we want to be available on several booking channels and would like dynamic pricing and a calendar sync feature

I saw a sales demo for Hostfully which ostensibly gets the property listed on multiple  channels and keeps the calendar straight to avoid double booking. 

Any insight from the resident experts on the best software to use to streamline management for a small set of MTR and STR (total 3 right now)?


 Hostfully is a solid choice, especially for listing on multiple channels and maintaining calendar accuracy. It supports dynamic pricing and syncs calendars to prevent double bookings. But I also recommend looking at the following software and seeing which one best suits your needs: Guesty, Avantio, Eviivo, Bookster, Hospitable, Hostaway, and Hosthub. I can't think of any others at the moment, but if anything comes to mind, I'll comment here.


 Thanks for the information. Very helpful. 

Post: Management Software for STR

Brad Gibson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Midland, TX
  • Posts 185
  • Votes 179
Quote from @Ryan Billups:

Hi Brad, I use Guesty for Host with pricelabs(dynamic pricing tool), and have been very happy with it. It connects my airbnb and VRBO calendars, offers automated messaging, smart lock integration, cleaning calendar/reminders, and offers pretty good income reports. I don't have any experience with Hostfully, but If you have any questions about Guesty I am happy to try and help.

Ryan, thank you for the response. What is the price point for using Guesty? 

Do you do an online guidebook through them?

Price point for Hostfully is approximately $1200 per year and they do charge an onboarding fee that includes a pair of individual train g sessions done online. 

Post: Management Software for STR

Brad Gibson
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Midland, TX
  • Posts 185
  • Votes 179

Does anyone have any recs for a management software for STR's?

I already use Hostfully guidebooks for a pair of MTR’s we are having great success with, but we simply manage the calendar and bookings between Airbnb and Furnished Finder. 

We are adding a STR to our portfolio in Arlington, TX in the entertainment district that is walking distance to Jerryworld and Globe Life Field & think we want to be available on several booking channels and would like dynamic pricing and a calendar sync feature

I saw a sales demo for Hostfully which ostensibly gets the property listed on multiple  channels and keeps the calendar straight to avoid double booking. 

Any insight from the resident experts on the best software to use to streamline management for a small set of MTR and STR (total 3 right now)?

Post: Investment Advisor Challenging Real Estate vs Equities

Brad Gibson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Midland, TX
  • Posts 185
  • Votes 179
Quote from @Dan H.:

I suspect his numbers are accurate if not including leverage or tax advantages.  6% annual appreciation would be 80% return then add the equity pay down (~20% in 10 years) and you get a double in 10 years. 

However, 80% LTV would result in 5x the appreciation return or 400% in 10 tears. 20% equity pay down. 420%.

With current rules you can: You can depreciate the physical structures.  Extract equity via refi or heloc without paying taxes.  You can 1031 the gains into a different property.  own 2 of 5 years to exempt $250k/$500k of gains.  Die and heirs get step up basis.  With current rules I never expect to pay taxes on my gains.   Not paying taxes on the gains results in additional “return”.

As others have indicated, the financial advisor benefits from getting you to invest with him.  

I do believe in a diversified portfolio so I do not want to be too harsh on the financial advisor.  I also am leery of believing he is lying; I think the reality could be worse as I suspect the reality is that he does not have a full understanding of the benefits of RE investing. 


good luck






 Superb info Dan.  Thank you.

Post: Investment Advisor Challenging Real Estate vs Equities

Brad Gibson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Midland, TX
  • Posts 185
  • Votes 179
Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Brad Gibson

If you invest in equities he gets fees from you - if you invest in real estate he gets no fees correct?

Spot on Chris.  100%