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All Forum Posts by: Bob Faulis

Bob Faulis has started 2 posts and replied 23 times.

Post: Investing in Marijuana dispensary properties and related biz's?

Bob FaulisPosted
  • Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 17

Hi John,

Interesting topic as I have a client who just fought his way out of foreclosure on a warehouse that, not to his knowledge at the time, that was identified by a California Municipality as one of some 40 or so warehouses selected as MJ warehouse facilities.  I am not sure what the requirements of selection were but he sort of won the lotto on this one- as well as now understanding why the lender was to diligent and resourceful in trying to take back the property.  

I need to read up on the legal stance of the various agencies so I can best help him in moving forward.  I am used to helping out distressed properties but not ones that are so HIGH on the list of interest.  LOL

Perhaps we can meet up and compare notes on the legal landscape here in San Diego.

Bob 

HI Karen,

This was a very unique project. One of our more experienced members of our group called it a "once in a life time deal."  It was very unique and thus presented some special problems (as if any deal with hair doesn't have special problems).

It was basically 4 acres of old foundations- with one remaining dilapidated warehouse. So it is a ground up project for mixed use. Some 60 luxury condos and perhaps 90,000 sqft of retail.  It is a larger scale development project.

Bob

HI Josie,

As the demands of putting this deal have subsided, I am more open to looking at my next venture.  Sure I would be interested in looking at your deal.   Our group's strongest focus is California with Los Angeles our area of strength.  But we also have done deals across the USA and even internationally.  It all depends on the project and more importantly what comes to our attention.  Please feel free to contact me.


Bob

Hi Joshua, glad to answer your questions,

Congratulations on your entry into outside equity, I wish you luck with it.

Yes, the deals are more scarce and  it is more difficult to identify opportunities as the obvious and easier deals are quickly identified and funded.  This requires one to be more imaginative and preemptive in your approach.   I am always looking for subtle signs of distress, thinking of new and better uses or property, learning regional growth trends and trying to anticipate markets.

For this property, I easily noticed that it was out of place- not being developed in a highly desirable and economically vibrant area.   It was an easy find but a difficult deal to put together- thus the reason it remained undeveloped.  Because of the trying legal issues, complexities of title and the age of the problems; no one even wanted to deal with the property. It is like the ugly girl in kindergarden that makes it to high school where everyone just views as good ole plain Jane, the good friend and student.  Then when she goes off to college, all the new students notice that she is a most beautiful and vibrant woman that all the guys want to date.  Humans are just creatures of habit that get used to their paradigm and don't tend to change our views and interests unless forced.  

Thus looking for old and tired properties and figuring out new ways to use it, new approaches to development, or how to overcome long standing problems can open new doors of opportunity. The most important part is always to be looking. You need to observe what works in other areas, where others came up with great ideas and then follow suit in your area.  

There is also the tries and true methods of networking, letting lawyers, real estate agents, contractors, pool service companies, landscapers that you are looking for people with properties that are facing difficulties.  Most importantly, you need to convince them that you have the abilities, the resources, and the drive to make it happen.

On this deal, I coordinated all the solutions needed to overcome the issues.  I pushed forward over and over again as others began to fade on interest or belief it could come through.  It is an emotional roller coaster that you need to be determined to stay on till the end. 

What made this deal more difficult is that an option was not even being considered by the owner.  Having spent years and years being approached by all types of visionaries without the money nor experience to purchase and develop the properties, he was not going to entertain another dreamer.  He needed to see full money along with a zero contingency offer.  It required me to put together a professional offering package that answered all questions, showed and proved probable outcomes, and also bring together an experienced team to develop.

Often what many newbies to project syndication believe is that if the can point to a potential opportunity, they are tied into the equity through the end.  One needs to understand that you need to bring ongoing value to the project to obtain a piece. You need strong relationships with developers, attorneys, capital sources and more.  

When you do have a good project, you need to have multiple capital sources which you have identified and built relationship with over the years.  Not every project fits every investor, you need multiple capital sources with different appetites and goals.  In this case, the ideal capital partner was one who does development so they understood the deal but who had too many projects going to work on such a big one.  A capital source that was inexperienced was scared by the hair on the deal while a super experienced and under worked developer wanted to take the whole deal.  It just took shopping.

So I recommend that you develop as many relationships as you can with those who will add value to your team as well as with a wide range of investors.  Get to know and understand your relationships with regards to their goals, their talents, and the integrity.

I hope the above gives some understanding to help those trying to syndicate there next heal.

Bob 

Diary Entry 12:  Ah, Ha !  You all thought I was gone and dead in the water.... nope, just busy.  Well, the capital is all set for the development and now the acquisition.  We had several sources but are moving forward with our most anxious partner.  The deal is about to clean up  and we need to take action before others jump in.  

It all proved very interesting with much to learn about landing that big deal.  I am now sure that I will be writing a book about the deal to give others a strong understanding as to what it takes to put together a distressed deal.  Our offer should be in today and accepted by Monday- we already had all terms per-approved by the seller.

We are 99.9% there- baring any wild occurrences.  I will update soon with property details and structure. 

Bob

Diary entry 11: what is interesting is that when you have a large and desirable project, a bunch if big boys all have interest and take their time to slowly digest the opportunity.  They don't show any concern that some else will swoop it up before they do.  I guess it is because they have many opportunities to leverage their large capital and they don't want to tie up in anything that has not not fully  reviewed from every angle and they confirm 100% the out come.   The size of the return does not matter (they always get bug returns) it is more important that they don't have lost opportunity with their money.  I can't wait things finalize on Tues or Wednesday and I can get into more details (though the big names shall be withheld ).

Later, Bob Faulis

beatthebank

Diary Entry 10: Three Meetings in Los Angeles today working out some of the final details.

Roc, I haven't even begun to disclose the REAL interesting stuff. I  even learned some new things about this high-level dealing.  Hey, what part of Philly are you locate?  I grew-up in Plymouth Meeting near Valley Forge.

Bob Faulis

Diary Entry 9:  AHHHH..... Now I see. I was wondering why they wanted investors meetings this weekend and were transferring funds so rapidly.  Our investor is actually the China Government through one of their government owned entities.

So, they get the money out of the country this weekend before they drop the value of the depreciation of the yuan. This just lowered the cost of the project to them.  There are probably many implications of all this.

It will be interesting to see what more I discover about the way global markets work through this deal.  Perhaps I can pass on some insights someday.

Bob Faulis

BeatTheBani

Diary Entry 8:  We are funded !   $100MM is sitting in the lawyers escrow under our control for the project.  It actually came from China who gave the best terms- which means that we have to file Form BE-13 with the Government.  All that is left is to finalize negotiations and have to court order clear title. 

That last part might sound easy but there is always a little bit of working with the personalities.  Though there is basic agreement in concept of terms, how we do it is a little at odds.  But fortunately both sides have the same goals and the $100MM makes it guaranteed to happen.

Update to come.

I am glad I helped inspire you Daryl.  I am sorry for your loss, but don't feel alone. I was working Manhattan distressed projects during the meltdown and worked with many "big whales" who loss it all in Real Estate. It wiped out people in all industries.

Till later this weak with the last steps.

Bob Faulis

BeatTheBank