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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 2 posts and replied 12 times.

Post: Best tech cities for real estate investing?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Andrew Johnson:

@Account Closed I picked a place that (thanks to extended family) I visited 20+ times growing up. And I grew up in a family that had SFR rentals bought to "send the kids to college". Consequently, I don't want to be a landlord so being absentee for me was a given. Being absentee is 50/50 of the risk. But the market I invest in also allowed me to buy multifamily and newer as a yield play. So (in a counterintuitive way) I risk adjust by not doing a value add fixer, deal with remote contractors, etc. I have lost many "value add" deals because have to risk-adjust the purchase price. And I also have money in the stock market so it isn't an either or for me.

For what it is worth, I do double expenses in my pro-formas to adjust for absentee-ism! 

Ahhh ok. So you think that the problems associated with absenteeism can be offset by focusing on yield plays instead of value add and doubling your expected expenses, which will really force you to find great deals, even in a worst case scenario.

That's really interesting, if I do decide out-of-state investing is for me, I'll definitely take this information to heart. Thanks!

Post: Best tech cities for real estate investing?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Jordan Moorhead:

@Account Closed I think Minneapolis still has plenty of room left for good deals.

@James Galla I agree with that list!

Yeah I've heard that Minneapolis is a hidden gem for real estate investing while browsing through BP.

Additionally, I hear that it's an "up and coming" tertiary tech hub, but it's quite hard to believe since pretty much every city wants to be known as the next "up and coming" tech hub lol. 

Still, I'm definitely keeping Minneapolis on my radar and if the rumors turn out to be true I'll probably focus my efforts there.

Thanks a lot!

Post: Best tech cities for real estate investing?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @James Galla:

I would take a look at this Macquarie bank list shared by Business Insider: high-grade tech regions.

Portland OR, Minneapolis-St. Paul MN, Akron OH, Albany NY, Durham-Raleigh-Chapel Hill NC, Austin TX, Cambridge MA, Silicon Valley CA.

Interesting article!  Thanks!

Post: Best tech cities for real estate investing?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Nghi Le:

What kind of job are you looking for? If software engineer, have you ever considered consulting? It's one of those careers that may potentially allow you to earn high income in a tech hub, but invest in a cash-flowing market because of the travel perks.

 Great question and I've definitely tried to assess my options in this regard. Quite frankly, I don't think I have enough experience in industry to really hone in on what type of tech job I'd like to do. I've considered consulting, but I'm not sure how banks would like a variable income if I apply for loans.

I'm not sure, but I think the best option in this case is to find a company that will let me work remotely so that I can have the freedom to live/invest anywhere, while still having a fixed income (plus self-employment taxes can be quite hefty).

What are your opinions on the matter?

Post: Best tech cities for real estate investing?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Andrew Johnson:

@Account Closed I don't live where I invest and you're always going to have more challenges, such as: 1.) you can't really drive by the property to see how the PM is doing, 2.) it's just plain harder to know path-of-progress and stuff like that from thousands of miles away, 3.) along those lines, it's hard to see which areas are getting worse that you want to avoid, 4.) local community banks will often look at your sideways when your address isn't local, 5.) there no way to house-hack if you don't live there, 6.) I'm probably forgetting more than few other things...

And the other side of the coin is that most cash-flow markets have cheaper properties even in nice areas.  I'd imagine a 1,200 ft tear down in Palo Alto is more than a 5,000 sq ft new-build in Akron (if there is such a thing).  I know that's a hyperbolic juxtaposition but you get my point.  

 These do sound like real challenges. If you don't mind me asking, do you think your out of state properties provide higher risk-adjusted returns than location-independent investments (say stocks, bonds, etc)?

Post: Best tech cities for real estate investing?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1

@Andrew Johnson @Ray Lai @Jim S. Thanks for your advice! I'll definitely prioritize my career over my investments for now.

Another follow up question: What is the benefit of living in a cashflow market vs out of state investing (assuming you don't manage the properties yourself)?

Post: Best tech cities for real estate investing?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Agreed, Columbus Ohio is a terrible place to invest. We have no jobs, no growth, the real estate market is completely stagnant, the cost of living is outrageous and there's literally not a single good deal to be had.  Our only computer was lost in the recent riots, so there went our tech job. 

*shifty look* 

LOL

Got it, Columbus is a no-go. Thanks

Post: Best tech cities for real estate investing?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1

@Jim S. @Ray Lai Thanks for your responses!

You both have some fantastic points and I understand that the overlap between tech hubs and cashflow markets is quite minimal (as tech markets tend to be appreciation markets).

Here's a harder follow up question that I'm now struggling with: Is it worth forgoing salary/job opportunities to live in a cashflow market (like KC, Indy, etc.)?

Any information would be appreciated, thanks.

Post: Best tech cities for real estate investing?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1

I saw this post:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/12/topics/456...

And I am pretty much in the exact same situation as the writer.

Would you guys say that the information presented in that thread is accurate?

Do you have any other suggestions that others may have overlooked?

Thanks!

Post: Is Raleigh a good cashflow market?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Curtis Mears:

We need more information to answer that. Are you paying cash, because then it is a great place to cash flow. If you are financing all of it, it is more difficult. Overall, the market in Raleigh is very hot and nice houses go within a week. Houses that need work, are priced as if they were pristine.  You can work the price down, but still, finding a great deal is really tough. On the flip side, houses rarely stay vacant for more a than a week or 2, and rents have been going up.

 Sorry about that. I'm trying to figure out which areas provide a good balance of tech jobs and cashflowing real estate and I've heard conflicting opinions about the cashflow potential of Raleigh. Are there good areas close to Raleigh for a good return on small multifamily units?