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All Forum Posts by: Austin Smith

Austin Smith has started 20 posts and replied 52 times.

Post: Tenants don't pay - My landlord journey may come to an end?

Austin SmithPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Newark
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31
Quote from @Michael Salamone:

@Austin Smith

Are you going to renew the tenant that was formerly delinquent? I feel like if you decide to keep them, you should maintain a month to month lease so you can remove them with provisions beyond non payment of rent if they decide to not page again…


 Renew?  You're kidding right? lol 

Just a major learning lesson that I'll take on the chin. At least with my one nightmare tenant. 

Post: Tenants don't pay - My landlord journey may come to an end?

Austin SmithPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Newark
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31
Quote from @James Hamling:

@Austin Smith I am a bit confused. I understand the eviction part, but my confusion is, eviction is just the posession part of things, when you hit the super-sloth mode on that, why didn't you shift gears and focus on the financial side, and financial remedies? namely, civil suite. I doubt those courts are equally log jammed, or are they? 

While yeah, technically, it does nothing for possession of the property, I can tell you just the act of getting those papers served of being sued, the explanation of process, such as all the costs that will be added to it, seeking a judgement, how from there one can garnish things like income, or via motion for discovery, assets, yeah, it get's a persons attention. 

During covid moratorium, it was the only action we had left, and holy-cow did it work like a charm. We used restraint of course, anyone with a legit problem we worked with them, payment plans, rent deferments, all it took was being a decent person and being honest. But those who were scamming, yeah, to court it was going. Batted 1000. And best part, 98% never made it to court room, they paid up and surrendered properties agreeably. The issue was they thought they could get away scot-free, zero recourse, and when found out that wasn't true, and once we had a judgment it would be "financial herpes" and follow them forever, like magic everything changed. 

This isn't the end, it's an evolution, your paying your dues as long as you keep learning and growing from everything. 


 That civil side already in motion and yes my court date for that will be sooner than my eviction process. I definitely agree and I'm hoping this helps them realize!  It's only 1 terrible tenant out of 17. So I'll take the odds on this journey. Especially when she was inherited and it was definitely my fault and learning lesson. 

Post: Tenants don't pay - My landlord journey may come to an end?

Austin SmithPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Newark
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31
Quote from @Victor Kao:
Quote from @Austin Smith:

Thanks for everyone's input. Currently out of the 3 tenants.  

1 finally paid and is back current
We're working on cash for keys for my other tenant
My worst tenant I'm prepared to be married to for a while until my court date. She was an inherited tenant and I know 100% what I did wrong. 


 I'm also in NJ and understand personally how much havoc that the eviction moratorium can wreak on the landlords in the state. When it was lifted at the beginning of the year a lawyer said the backlog was at 15 months for Middlesex County. I ended up chasing down the rental assistance avenue which ended up paying at month 10. However, they then transitioned to Temporary Rental Assistance which requires the tenant to work or go through their job placement program. The tenant refused and of course terminated his assistance. Now the only recourse is eviction and I hear backlog is still at 6+ months. He refused cash for keys multiple times and is very good at pushing the limits of tenant rights. Un/fortunately he purposely damaged property and now I can evict him for that reason which hopefully puts the case higher up in the backlog.


 Hey man! Thank you for shedding light on what others think is just a lack of knowledge and procrastination. The TRUTH is, in NJ at least, we're at the mercy a little bit more than the other states. Luckily I have only one terrible tenant and this will all blow over. I'll be good either way, the title of this forum was to make sure people would respond lol. 

Post: Tenants don't pay - My landlord journey may come to an end?

Austin SmithPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Newark
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31

Thanks for everyone's input. Currently out of the 3 tenants.  

1 finally paid and is back current
We're working on cash for keys for my other tenant
My worst tenant I'm prepared to be married to for a while until my court date. She was an inherited tenant and I know 100% what I did wrong. 

Post: Tenants don't pay - My landlord journey may come to an end?

Austin SmithPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Newark
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31
Quote from @Jordan Moorhead:

@Austin Smith do your occupied and paying units pay enough to float the portfolio and can you hold on for a bit? 

It might not be a bad time to sell a few headache properties and move into more landlord friendly states also. Maybe you could make your equity work harder for you too?

I understand this is frustrating but it can lead you in a better direction long term. 

So I have one headache of a property that I would consider selling. I would have to sell to an investor instead of retail with the delinquent tenant.

I'm going to work on cash for keys a little bit more. 

My one tenant who is the bane of my existence was an inherited tenant. I should have gotten rid of her a long time ago but she was actually paying every month until she tripped financially and that was the end. 

Post: Tenants don't pay - My landlord journey may come to an end?

Austin SmithPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Newark
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31

Thanks everyone for their feedback! 

Post: Tenants don't pay - My landlord journey may come to an end?

Austin SmithPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Newark
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31
Quote from @Kim Meredith Hampton:

@Austin Smith Does your state and/or municipality offer rental assistance? This could help a lot with your issue and and at least  make you whole or get you to next year when you could possibly start evicting again


 The state originally agreed to provide rental assistance. Because I accepted, that also throws out the eviction case. I've received one check so far and I'm in the same situation as I was before. Luckily my attorney and I still filed up "holdover tenant" which keeps our position in this forever growing backlog. 

Post: Tenants don't pay - My landlord journey may come to an end?

Austin SmithPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Newark
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31
Quote from @Joe Villeneuve:

Your solution is what you said you "definitely don't want to do".  Why?  You don't lose your equity if sell,...you just move it to a Market/State where it is more favorable to be a landlord.

REI is a business. Like any and every other business, if your clients (tenants in this case) don't pay their bills, you stop selling your product/service to them. If the product/service that is your business isn't making you money, you either get out of that business, change your market and/or product/service, or go bankrupt.

You have the same three choices here.  Thus far, your choice has been the 4th one...none of the above.


 I appreciate the feedback!

Post: Tenants don't pay - My landlord journey may come to an end?

Austin SmithPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Newark
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31
Understood. The eviction was filed months ago, it's just that I haven't gotten a court date. 

Quote from @Jim K.:

@Austin Smith

Whatever the law in New Jersey is, whatever backlog there may be, there are local provisions and procedures for eviction. You're going to have to learn them inside and out. That's the ugly part of the business most of us don't talk about. There's no excuse for letting a tenant mooch off you for a year without taking real action except a bad lease, a bad understanding of eviction laws, maybe a bad lawyer. When your tenants stop paying, you have to start procedures. You are NOT powerless against social parasites who refuse to abide by the contracts they sign. Learn the laws of your area and follow them carefully.

I live and operate in Pittsburgh. Things aren't that different here.


Post: Tenants don't pay - My landlord journey may come to an end?

Austin SmithPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Newark
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 31
Sorry, let me reiterate, the eviction process has already begun for all of them, it's just that I haven't received a court date.



Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Austin Smith:

This is common with new real estate investors. Investing is pretty easy . . . until it's not.

Your first problem is that you allowed the tenant to go so long without paying before deciding to start the eviction process. If you're going to thrive in this business, you need solid policies and procedures to prevent problems from getting too big to handle. I start the eviction process 10 days after rent is due, not 12 months.

Hire an attorney that is very experienced in evictions. Pay whatever it takes to evict these tenants. Watch how he does it, read the law, take notes, and be prepared to handle it on your own next time. Refine your processes so that the eviction process starts the very first day the law allows.

You shouldn't give up on real estate. You need to give up making amateur mistakes. Anybody can put money into a house and look good as long as there are no bumps in the road. Being able to tackle the bumps is what makes you a pro.