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All Forum Posts by: Austin Pesce

Austin Pesce has started 3 posts and replied 11 times.

Post: Flip/BRRRR Deal in Mount Vernon, NY

Austin PescePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Monroe, NY
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Jeremy Wirths:

@Austin Pesce the market change will happen. And then it will go back up. And then it will go back down. Don't try and time it and don't be afraid of it. If you buy right then that won't be an issue. Will it affect how much you make, sure but if you buy it right then you'll still be able to make money. Have multiple exit strategies. You mentioned BRRRR, could you also flip it? Could you house hack it (alone or with some buddies)?

Even if you don't make money on this one, think about all the experiences and lessons learned you will have, including getting your first deal done. Sometimes that is more important than the money because you can take those experiences and use them to make more money in the future.



@Jeremy Wirths That makes a lot of sense! I guess I can compile the different possible exit strategies before I go through with the deal. I think flipping would be the best for this deal, then BRRRR if not flipping or some sort of way to pull out the cash and pay everyone back that put money in with me. That's the hardest part, I'm limited to responsibility on other people's money because I don't have that much capital just yet, if that makes sense? But I appreciate your response and will start to look at my potential exits!!

Post: Flip/BRRRR Deal in Mount Vernon, NY

Austin PescePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Monroe, NY
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Joe Aiola:

@Austin Pesce Hey man! Great post and great questions. Here's my opinion:

Doing the work yourself always sounds fun and like a great idea, but if a house needs 100k in renovation, it's probably better to hire the whole thing out. Doing the work yourself will take 10x longer. Even if you are a contractor, you can't work on different trades at the same time. You'll be able to learn a ton just by overseeing the project... Speed plays a big role in renovations. 

As for the market - nobody has a crystal ball, but I would absolutely have the same concerns. Doesn't mean I wouldn't do the deal, but I would make sure to mitigate the risk as much as possible. I'd be making sure I got a great deal, not just a good one. I'd make sure I'd have enough in reserves. I'd make sure I was buying in the most desirable part of town. I'd be crystal clear on the numbers, my goal for the property, and my exit strategies. 

Most importantly, I'd be asking myself what the worst possible outcome could be and how likely that outcome is to happen? If it doesn't seem that bad, or if it's something that you can recover from, then take your shot. If a deal goes sideways, that doesn't mean you fail. You only fail if you were to quit after that bad deal. But if you keep moving forward and eventually become successful, then is that failing?

Best of luck!

@Joe Aiola That makes sense! I guess I can try to put all of the potential outcomes (from best to worst) together and look at them. Now I feel like it could really be a great deal, but again it would be my first and a HUGE first one with that!! I can also ask the agent that deals with the area to see how quick some deals in the area come and go on the market...I appreciate your help a lot!

Post: Flip/BRRRR Deal in Mount Vernon, NY

Austin PescePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Monroe, NY
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by @Whitney Hutten:

@Austin Pesce I agree with not trying to time the market. However, there are real estate strategies that work well through all markets and BRRRR is one of them. Now for the reality check. If this is your first BRRRR, I'm not sure I'd advise taking on a $100K project with other people's money. Now some will "yell" at me on here, but I don't think that is a conservative approach in this environment. Also, make sure you are adding heavy contingencies to a rehab like that (probably 15-20%+) just to guard your downside.

Can it be done... yes.  But just because you could, doesn't mean you should.

@Whitney Hutten I agree, however there lies my problem. I see that it would be a huge project, and also know it would be my first...However, I just can't help but see the huge potential upside and I don't want it to be clouding what it really is. I looked at the comps in the area (~$450,000 based on the original 5 bed 2 bath 1900 sqft 2 unit) and for the asking price ($185,000), I feel like I'm seeing smoke and mirrors? Even with $200,000 into this house I feel like it would still be good profit,  but again this would be my first. 

Now I'm NOT trying to argue with you, because I know you know more than me! But, I like seeing the bigger picture and really appreciate the devils advocate approach. I just don't want to miss out on an opportunity (or so I think).

I would also like to throw in I work as an Assistant Project Manager for a big General Contractor company in that town, still new to this job but I figured I would mention to see if it had any sense in the matter Lol!

Post: Flip/BRRRR Deal in Mount Vernon, NY

Austin PescePosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Monroe, NY
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 2

Hey everyone, my name is Austin and I've posted on here a couple times but I am in fact still a 22 year old newbie. Now, I found this really enticing deal in Mount Vernon, NY that seems to be a really fun first time project and getting my hands dirty...real dirty. It's a house in need of almost a whole repair of the house, not to be specific though because I am walking it on Wednesday (first walk and view). This deal is amazing to me and I really don't want to pass it up, but...

I am struggling to put together how I am going to find financing for the rehab on this deal. I am anticipating at least $100,000 of rehab to go into this property and trust me, I do not have that much saved up yet. I really want to be able to get the work done by myself (with help of friends/family) and subcontracting out the dangerous/out-of-my-league work I cannot do. However, I am trying to find out how I may finance this rehab in general. 

Sure, I can convince my parents to take out a HELOC and partner with them, or maybe I can find a lender to loan me money at a high interest for maybe a year of time. But the problem with this is I will have to pay them back quickly. Now, I really don't want to sound dense or maybe selfish? But I can't stop thinking about a potential downturn in the market taking away any profit I may gain from the flip, or not being able to sell in the first place. As for the BRRRR, this technique proves successful BUT I do believe it will demolish my cash-flow, which I m also trying to build. I can explain the deal in more detail to anyone who may want to take the time to help, otherwise I guess a general answer to see would help.

I guess my question is, should I be afraid of a market crash potentially hindering my ability to sell the house after tons of time and money being put into the house?

And should I be skeptical of this BRRRR because it kills my potential cash-flow (my real estate goal to have substantial cash-flow to not be held down by a job, by 26 more specifically so I can travel on a budget of course.) ??

If anyone could help, that would be amazing and I would appreciate it!!

Austin Pesce

      Post: LOOKING TO CONNECT: Orange County, NY/Westchester County, NY

      Austin PescePosted
      • New to Real Estate
      • Monroe, NY
      • Posts 11
      • Votes 2

      @Rich Ramjatan 

      Hey Rich,

      You mentioned you are a General Contractor for the NYC/Sullivan County area. I am curious does that include the Counties in between these as well? I am most familiar with Orange County and Westchester County, and was wondering where you usually do your work?

      Austin Pesce

      Post: LOOKING TO CONNECT: Orange County, NY/Westchester County, NY

      Austin PescePosted
      • New to Real Estate
      • Monroe, NY
      • Posts 11
      • Votes 2

      @Przemek Kos

      That's awesome man! What do you think about connecting via phone/text/in-person to talk more about it? II don't mind either, as I'm still in no rush.. but I've been interested in starting a lot and think us keeping in touch now and in the future would be a benefit!

      Post: LOOKING TO CONNECT: Orange County, NY/Westchester County, NY

      Austin PescePosted
      • New to Real Estate
      • Monroe, NY
      • Posts 11
      • Votes 2

      To add on, I am also interested in anyone who works in an area within 1.5 hours from Monroe, NY...I don't mind driving or investing in an area with that distance!

      Post: LOOKING TO CONNECT: Orange County, NY/Westchester County, NY

      Austin PescePosted
      • New to Real Estate
      • Monroe, NY
      • Posts 11
      • Votes 2

      Hey everyone. I'm posting on here to reach out to all Real Estate Investors/Flippers/Contractors/Landlords/Agents that mess around with the Orange County/Westchester County area in New York. I have lived in Monroe, NY all of my life and I work in Mount Vernon, NY. So because of this I have been looking to begin with Real Estate Investing in either of these areas, more specifically Rental Properties (buy and hold, turnkey, value add, or BRRRR).

      Now, I know how important connections are in life, and real estate is no exception at all and I want to get after it. I am most interesting in building a network of people that are in this business and are familiar with the area that I may be able to team up with (finding a mentor/fellow investor is always something I would go for as well!). I currently just graduated college in May 2020 and started working as of June this year so I've been avid about beginning real estate, but am in no rush at all. I believe that there is nothing better than having a good team working with you, and a great connection around you when you make big moves in life. And I know this is the site to find those! 

      Let me know if you're interested and add contact info if you want to talk more, I will gladly speak more about where I am at!

      Post: CAPE COD Rental Opportunity?¿

      Austin PescePosted
      • New to Real Estate
      • Monroe, NY
      • Posts 11
      • Votes 2

      @Mason Hickman That makes a lot of sense, I can see how that works.. How much investing experience would you have in the Cape? It peaks my interest so I think it would be cool to look into, like the property I mentioned.  Where else could you be reached?

      Post: CAPE COD Rental Opportunity?¿

      Austin PescePosted
      • New to Real Estate
      • Monroe, NY
      • Posts 11
      • Votes 2

      @Moises R Cosme Awesome man thank you! That is good advice and something I will get right on. Thank you for the quick response too.