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All Forum Posts by: Audrey Spina

Audrey Spina has started 3 posts and replied 10 times.

Post: Full time Mom Strategy

Audrey SpinaPosted
  • Brooklyn NY
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Paul Moore:

@Audrey Spina I know someone who spends approximately two hours per week on there Airbnb cabin in a prime location. In fact they have three cabins now and quit their job as a General Motors engineer. I highly recommend you consider that. I’d be happy to connect you to him if you want to learn his strategy. 


If you are accredited, I recommend considering passive investment opportunities like syndications and funds. Good luck!

 Hi Paul, thanks for the offer! I’m just wondering if they spent two hours a week researching, securing, furnishing, etc their Airbnb. I can’t even conceive how it would be possible, though I do believe once the systems are in place it could be much easier to manage. 

Post: Full time Mom Strategy

Audrey SpinaPosted
  • Brooklyn NY
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:

We own and operate long term rentals. We took our child with us looking at properties. We took her to closings. I have taken her with when showing properties. It is a family business and I see it as a positive that she sees and learns it first hand.

Oh I agree that it would be a great foundation to take my baby with me to get him interested in what we are doing. Unfortunately anything I’m considering will likely be sight unseen and out is state. So probably just lots of emails and phone calls which can be hard to manage with so little time, but not impossible 

Post: Full time Mom Strategy

Audrey SpinaPosted
  • Brooklyn NY
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Trevor Fleck:

@Audrey Spina I was/am in the same boat. My wife and I both have full-time demanding jobs and two young children (4 and 3 respectively). We share childcare and household duties 50:50. I used to be a DIY investor in several markets across the country, but there just wasn't enough hours in the day when my kids were born and my family is my true north so taking time away from them wasn't an option. 

That's really why I decided to go the turnkey route and I've had a lot of success with that. For me, that meant vetting a bunch of turnkey companies back in 2019, speaking with several over the phone, visiting 1-2, and then making a decision. I ended up with Rent to Retirement and I couldn't be happier. Happy to chat (when you have time) if you have any questions. 

My family is also the most important thing, I call my son my North Star. I’m excited to create something for us and his future. I love your idea of turnkey, that may be just what I need to move forward with less of a time investment. I really appreciate the info and referral to the company you use. I’ve already set up a call with them to see what they’re all about. Would love to reach out to you about your experience too!  

Post: Full time Mom Strategy

Audrey SpinaPosted
  • Brooklyn NY
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Kaja Baum:

@Audrey Spina

Long term rentals should definitely be least time intensive. Consider a turnkey someplace with high cash flow like Buffalo or lots of Midwest cities.

At the end of the day, long distance investment is mostly a series of phone calls, e-mails, and studying the market, all which can be done while taking baby for a walk or during nap times!

And listen to as many audiobooks and podcasts while doing all of your house chores. 2 hours a day will get you a long way. Analyze some markers, call some lenders, then some agents, and you’re on your way.

Hope that helps!

 Thank you! Yes there are some great suggestions here and I try to spend those couple of hours on my phone doing some research, reading the forums etc. 

Post: Full time Mom Strategy

Audrey SpinaPosted
  • Brooklyn NY
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3

How do you invest when you have two hours a day to yourself? What would you do if realistically you could only work while baby naps? Pre pandemic we planned to start investing, started saving, analyzing deals, getting pre qualified etc. I found out I was pregnant two weeks before shutdown and ended up shutting my business down for 5 months, lost basically my entire income, etc. 

But I’m anxious to get back to a plan even though my income has taken a hit, we still have tons of savings. But TIME! I have so little.

So if you had minimal time but were ready to invest, what would make the most sense? STR? Long term hold? We live in NYC so absolutely no house hacking or STR here, anything would likely be out of state or definitely not within a couple of hours. We plan to move back to CA in a year so I want to do something now while I still own and operate my business. Thanks for your insight, mom life can be relentless!

Originally posted by @Rick Momsen:

You've got a couple options. If you have a large depreciation and vehicle mileage that you claim on your tax returns that can be added back in as income. If that doesn't work you can go portfolio lending and they'll lend on bank statements, so if you have a lot of cash coming in, they'll use that. Alternately you can go stated income loan or they'll take 75% of what the current marketable rent is for that unit as income. The rate is going to be higher than traditional lending but you either pay less in tax and a higher rate or higher in taxes and a lower rate, it's a trade off.

I only do the west coast but I've got a couple lenders I can put you in touch with on the east coast.

 Thanks for the info Rick! I need to educate myself more on some alternate funding strategies in case this low salary sets me back. I don't use my vehicle for work or have any major depreciation. My accountant is doing a fantastic job with my taxes, a bit too good now with the idea of securing lending is looming. I am definitely going to look at portfolio lending and educate myself further. I haven't chosen a market yet, and it could very well end up being the west coast though I think mid-west is probably more likely as I think I'll need to start with securing a loan for a property less than $200k. Though I know I can afford more I'm not sure I can prove that in the eyes of a lender. Are lenders open to discussing a strategy with someone without a hard inquiry into their credit? 

@Basit Siddiqi:

@Audrey Spina

lender's will look at your full tax return and not just the salary that the S-corp pays to you. Does your S-corp show income after it pays you your salary? If it does - the lenders will count that as income earned. 

Lenders look at several things such as DTI, Cash-required to close, and credit score to see if you will qualify for a loan.

DTI(Debt-to-Income) - Banks want to see that the income you earn can pay off your current monthly obligations plus the new mortgage you will acquire. I see 36% and 45% DTI's are okay to have to qualify.

This is the area that may impact you the most since you indicated you don't have much taxable income. 
If you rent your personal residence; a large monthly rent can affect you. Brooklyn rent is high!
Also - large monthly credit card debt can impact you. If you have some - you may want to consider paying it off.

Cash-required to close - This area doesn't seem like you will have any trouble since you have money in the bank

Credit score - again this area doesn't seem like it will impact you since you have excellent credit.

You may want to consider speaking with some lenders. Ultimately - they are the ones who will have the final say.

Thanks for the comprehensive reply! I do show some dividends after my salary is paid but its still only showing about $40K in total income. In reality its a different picture but I know this won't matter to a lender. 

I have no debt and all credit cards (typically about $6K a month are paid off monthly). This has definitely helped contribute to my credit score. 

Rent IS expensive in Brooklyn! I pay two of them between my apartment and shop so Im sure that won't look favorable but besides things like insurance and utilities, major items are paid off. I wonder if a lender will do a soft inquiry without a hard inquiry into my credit? 

HI BP Members!

I currently own a retail business in Brooklyn NY and am ready to expand my investments into real estate. OOS multi-family is the goal. I'd like to take the first step of getting an idea of what I could qualify for except it has just occurred to me that having a very good and very creative accountant has also left my income (on paper) looking a bit sad, and not quite an accurate representation. 

I am an S-Corp and pay myself a small salary of $40K but make the lions share of my profits through my dividends. I have had lots of deductions and thus has cut deeply into my financial "portrait." I do however have excellent credit (780) and 6 figures in the bank. 

To get to the point- Are lenders taking your taxes as the most important part of your financial picture? This year I will be bumping up my salary to take this into account, but wondering if I should hold off on trying to get pre-qualified because my income currently shows so low. Otherwise do I just see what I can get qualified for based on my measly earnings but excellent credit and liquidity? Thanks in advance! 

Also I should note, in case this makes a difference, I have not chosen a particular market for investment yet,  I am finding that to be my biggest challenge!

Hi BP Community!

Before we get started I DID check the meetups on BP in my area but they are pretty limited at the moment. It occurred to me that there might be some closed (or otherwise) Facebook groups or other meetups happening that some of you know about. 

Full disclosure I am not going to be a local investor in NYC but I have been preparing to get into an OOS market for multi-family investing. (Please lord let me just pick one already!) It would be amazing to find a group of people in NYC already doing that. I would also just be happy to be a part of a group regardless of where their investments are. Thanks in advance if you've got a lead on that!

As a small business owner I have taken certain transactions from clients on Venmo for years. It works seamlessly and you can either deposit that money directly into your account or leave it in Venmo as kind of an online bank to pay for other things. I know in particular they have partnered with Seamless food delivery and maybe even airbnb. You do NOT "share" account numbers with people on Venmo as I saw mentioned. However you can request money from anyone by their name or phone number (an amazing feature to remind someone to pay you). I would love it if I could pay my rent with venmo but my retail landlord is literally the only bill I have to go to the post office for. Sigh.

Skip paypal for anything and everything. I had major fraud on my paypal account and it took months for them to handle it and return thousands of dollars to me. No thanks.