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All Forum Posts by: Atish Shah

Atish Shah has started 2 posts and replied 18 times.

Post: San Francisco Happy Hour Meetup #8

Atish ShahPosted
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 16

Thank you Sean. I am heading from LA. Won't be able to make it in time to attend the meetup tonight. I have subscribed to the group on meetup. Hope to attend on of these in near future.

Post: Which city in San Francisco bay area should i start

Atish ShahPosted
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 16

Thank you @Account Closed, will keep pursuing the "impossible"

Post: Which city in San Francisco bay area should i start

Atish ShahPosted
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 16

Very well said @Arlen Chou, I totally agree with you. Good food for thought!!

@Account Closed, sorry I did mean median rent

@Jen L., do keep us posted when pull the trigger

Post: Which city in San Francisco bay area should i start

Atish ShahPosted
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 16

@Nick James that looks like a great deal, of course only after a lot of sweat equity was put in. I would be up for acquiring a property needing extensive rehab. I will send you a pm. Let's continue the conversation there. And, thanks for offering to help me out!!

Post: Which city in San Francisco bay area should i start

Atish ShahPosted
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 16

@J. Martin

Thank you for chiming in. Actually, if you read my post, I never mentioned about good school districts/low crime and cash flow. I understand that's difficult in our market (I won't say impossible) to achieve both. The topic of Hayward/Castro Valley school just came up in conversation. lol

What you and Brian suggested totally makes sense!!

Post: Which city in San Francisco bay area should i start

Atish ShahPosted
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 16
Originally posted by @Brian Burke:

Interesting data...but I wonder how useful it is. If one community has a high number of sales of high-end homes it's median price will skew higher. Those high-end homes aren't typically in the rental pool so there wouldn't be a correspondingly high rental rate to skew the median rent in tandem with the price. 

For example, in Santa Rosa the median price is $625,000 as of May 2017. But investors don't typically buy $625,000 houses to rent out (in Santa Rosa). Most would tend to buy in the $350K to $500K range. So comparing the price to rent ratio against the median is misleading. 

The real question would be to compare rents at a specific price point. In other words, what does a $500,000 house rent for in Pittsburg, Hayward, etc.  Then you can get a more accurate ratio...and the result may or may not surprise you. 

Thank you Brian. That makes complete sense. I will run the numbers as you suggested.

Post: Which city in San Francisco bay area should i start

Atish ShahPosted
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 16

@Diane G. hahah, that is why i said that it is somewhat difficult to achieve in the bay area. Some some investors have been able to achieve that in Oakland, amongst other cities/towns

Post: Which city in San Francisco bay area should i start

Atish ShahPosted
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 16

@Jerome Kaidor , as a rule of thumb, I am looking for the gross rent to be 1% of the purchase price. This is somewhat hard to achieve in the bay area with market deals

Post: Which city in San Francisco bay area should i start

Atish ShahPosted
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 16

@Jorge Jimenez I am looking for strictly non-owner occupied multi unit. Ideally a 4plex with monthly rent around 1% of the purchase price. I haven't been looking actively yet though.