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All Forum Posts by: Atanas Petrov

Atanas Petrov has started 4 posts and replied 15 times.

Post: Looking for Off Market Opportunities

Atanas PetrovPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 10

Would love to position myself for a BRRR or Fix and Flip in Los Angeles. I have hard time finding deals that can make a margin that's good enough. Even off market deals are priced very high, and the competition is fierce. Would you share any whole-sellers contacts.

Thank you

Post: Aspiring Investor looking into setting up 1st syndication

Atanas PetrovPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 10

Hey Everyone,

I have several SFH properties in Los Angeles, and would like to acquire more knowledge and get some answers in order to get into my 1st syndication. I have a few friends that would participate financially, and I would be the sponsor on a small multifamily property. I would like to start setting up the syndication, but I do not know what type of an attorney or accountant I need to help me with this process, or the cost associated. Your advice would be greatly appreciated. Who do I need to talk to begin. Please don't tell me I need to network and raise the funds, I don't need to raise the money for this one, I have the investors (non accredited) I need to get the ball rolling and if you have any professional contacts that can help me achieve this, please share them. I understand that syndication 506B would be an expensive endeavor vs setting up an LLC with a few friends and purchasing the property this way, but I personally would like to build experience by setting up the syndication, with my friends as passive investors, once I go through all the steps and troubles etc and learn, I can then go bigger on the next project. Thank you for your help in advance.

Post: Business Account for LLC which has zelle

Atanas PetrovPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 10

I had this same issue. My partner was in Nevada, and I live in California. The LLC was formed in the state of Nevada.

I tried opening a bank account on my own in California, I was told that my partner has to be present as well.

Because I was very persistent to find a solution, I had the opportunity to speak to the manager of the bank, and what we ended up doing is while I was in the bank, Chase in California sent a set of documents to the manager of a Chase bank in Nevada, thus both of the partners being present, one manager communicating with the other manager at the same time. 

In conclusion it may work depending on the bank, also depending on the states you are in, because different states have different rules and regulations, also it matters the percentage of partnership.  For example, if one partner has a minority share, again depending on the state and regulations, they may not have to be present, and the partner with higher percentage of the company can open up a bank account.

It's a very tricky situation, and I would say after you speak to multiple banks, it might be better to fly to the state where the LLC was formed and open the bank account there because the hassle might not be worth it. It worked for me, but each situation, bank, state, and partnership is different.

Good luck

Quote from @Chen Zhou:
Quote from @Atanas Petrov:
Quote from @Chen Zhou:
Originally posted by @David T.:

@Chen Zhou Congrats! thanks for sharing! I see that you took out a home equity loan to finance this second ADU. Curious to hear why you didn't go with a cash out refinance route instead? Was the rate a lot lower with a home equity loan vs cash out refi?

Actually cash out refi was my preference, but looks like very very few banks offer that during the pandemic, and even if they do offer, the total amount is typically capped at $1M, and the rates are not that good. My first mortgage's interest rate is very good:)

Luckily I found Figure.com, who offers pretty good rates for a 30-year fixed home equity loan, which I thought is almost the equivalent of cash out refi, if not better. Plus the whole process was very hassle free and only took 5 business days. Didn't have to do appraisal (Figure does digital appraisal and gave me generous valuation) and didn't have to send them all the documents as I just needed to digitally link my bank accounts to their website for them to do cash flow analysis before they can approve the loan.

Ultimately I thought in a few years when the property appreciates further, I will do cash out refi anyway to maintain my leverage, and at that time I can pay off both loans, so I didn't care too much about 1 loan vs. 2 loans at the moment.


Hey Chen, I'm currently finishing a 1200 sq ft ADU in Los Angeles in 2 months, and will be using a HELOC to fund another ADU project when the plans get approved in the next 4 months on another home I already own. My question to you is how does Figure.com evaluate the ADU. Do you have to provide them with any information related to the newly build ADU, you said no appraisal no documents, but they still need to know some details about the size of the ADU weather or not the house and the ADU are rented, may be leases I imagine? if you could elaborate, it will be very helpful. Thank you for the great post btw


When Figure did the virtual appraisal for me (completely driven by publicly available data, no human involved), they simply just added the ADU sqft to the main house's and gave me a number within minutes of application. Hope it helps.


 Great, that's amazing.  Thank you

Quote from @Chen Zhou:
Originally posted by @David T.:

@Chen Zhou Congrats! thanks for sharing! I see that you took out a home equity loan to finance this second ADU. Curious to hear why you didn't go with a cash out refinance route instead? Was the rate a lot lower with a home equity loan vs cash out refi?

Actually cash out refi was my preference, but looks like very very few banks offer that during the pandemic, and even if they do offer, the total amount is typically capped at $1M, and the rates are not that good. My first mortgage's interest rate is very good:)

Luckily I found Figure.com, who offers pretty good rates for a 30-year fixed home equity loan, which I thought is almost the equivalent of cash out refi, if not better. Plus the whole process was very hassle free and only took 5 business days. Didn't have to do appraisal (Figure does digital appraisal and gave me generous valuation) and didn't have to send them all the documents as I just needed to digitally link my bank accounts to their website for them to do cash flow analysis before they can approve the loan.

Ultimately I thought in a few years when the property appreciates further, I will do cash out refi anyway to maintain my leverage, and at that time I can pay off both loans, so I didn't care too much about 1 loan vs. 2 loans at the moment.


Hey Chen, I'm currently finishing a 1200 sq ft ADU in Los Angeles in 2 months, and will be using a HELOC to fund another ADU project when the plans get approved in the next 4 months on another home I already own. My question to you is how does Figure.com evaluate the ADU. Do you have to provide them with any information related to the newly build ADU, you said no appraisal no documents, but they still need to know some details about the size of the ADU weather or not the house and the ADU are rented, may be leases I imagine? if you could elaborate, it will be very helpful. Thank you for the great post btw

Post: Biggest Mistake in Real Estate

Atanas PetrovPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 10

Some of the big mistakes in real estate as mentioned above are hesitating for too long, not making the decision, and not following through.  The first time I tried to buy a property, I wanted my dream home, in a really good area, obviously way more than I could afford.  I sat down with the lender he was looking over my tax returns, did all the number crunching, and later explained that the maximum I would qualify for is about half of what my dream home was going to cost.  Then instead of finding a property that I can qualify for, I decided that I'm going to wait couple of years until I have a bigger downpayment and higher income to get my dream house.  4 years later I ended up buying an investment property in completely different neighborhood because the prices had risen so high that again this was all I could get.  Moral of the story, don't wait, don't hesitate, make the decision, follow your plan of action, believe in yourself and make it happen.  Do not take advice from people that don't own a home, and are not investors. 

Post: Deciding between Out of State Investing or a House Hack?

Atanas PetrovPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 10

I was in a similar boat a while back, contemplating whether to buy locally in Los Angeles and house hack, or buy a property out of state.  For a first time investor or simply home owner, I would strongly encourage anyone to start with house hack locally so you can learn what it takes to manage a property, build small network of handy man, sub contractors, do small upgrades if necessary, and have a full hands on experience.  Of course that out of state investment is also a great strategy, but you have to understand what you are doing first, gain confidence and that will pave the way to a more successful out of state investing strategy and experience.  That's my subjective opinion

Quote from @Villy Ellinger:

Hi, @Atanas Petrov! First of all, glad to meet a fellow Bulgarian investor :-)! (Аз съм от София. Сега живея във Форт Уолтън Бийч, Флорида, близо до Дестин :-)). I don't know much about the California market, so I will not comment there. I see several comments above about the Emerald Coast of Florida/ Panhandle (that is where I am). I'm a real estate agent here, but primarily I'm an investor and my main investments are short term/vacation rentals. I have done some flips and rehabs, and I have also done some long-term rentals (in Memphis). I like short term rentals the best. I find the industry enjoyable and challenging and I like being hand's on. Also, profit potential is definitely better with STRs. If you do not want to "deal with it" and want someone else to manage for you, that is fine. BUT, in STR (in my opinion) you will never make the kind of profit that you can unless you do it yourself and you do it hands-on. STR is NOT a passive type investment. It is a hospitality business. So it's more like running a hotel than a rental.

I'm a control freak, lol, so I don't like that in a long term rentals I have no idea what the tenants are doing in the property and if I need to evict them, it becomes a legal nightmare.

I do like rehabs... to a point. Babysitting contractors and vendors gets old, lol. Also, I do some of the finishes myself, so I'm not always in the mood to grout tile, lol.

All that said.... currently the market here is ... stupid expensive and hot. So buying something that will cashflow immediately is super hard. I like smaller condo, because I find the rent per sq ft is higher and there is better ease to maneuver marketing strategy when the market shifts. They are definitely more labor-intensive per sq ft, I agree. Last week I made an all cash offer (condo in Sandestin, FL) with 20 day close, no contingencies and $10K over ask price ... and I did not get it. There were 9 other offers. People are buying here in FL because they are afraid the inventory (close to the beach is limited). If you are looking to buy here, I would say make sure you like the area, so you can visit enough and also, maybe look at in long-term. Cuz prices are definitely not "a deal" right now. Also, if you are looking to finance, might prepare for significant appraisal gaps on desirable properties. And definitely use a local lender if you finance a condo.

Успех!


здравей Villy ;), it's pleasure to meet you as well. I wrote a very long reply and somehow it didn't post so this time I will be brief. It sounds that you have had quite a bit of experience and you are no hands on the STR business, which is wonderful. I personally am familiar with LTR rentals and as far as the STR approach, I'm very aware that I would be managing it myself especially in the beginning so that I can learn and make the most out of it. I have been running a small e-commerce business for quite a few years, and have years of experience with customers, customer service, marketplaces, selling platforms, softwares, problem solving, and so much more that it makes me very confident that I will transition to STR rather quickly compared to someone who has no experience in anything online and long term rentals

The competitive nature of the market in your area sounds a lot like what has been happening in LA and some of the vacation rental markets that I have been analyzing.  

Thank you for your advice regarding the financing and the appraisal gaps.  This has been the trend in many vacation rental markets, many agents have mentioned it right a way, and I hear about more and more properties outside of a vacation market that went through a similar ordeal.   One of the reasons many single family homes get back on the market is due to not being appraised at the selling price, which is so high due to the bidding wars. 

Thank you for sharing your life experience and professional opinion and advice.

Do skoro

Quote from @Josh Maier:

Hey there @Atanas Petrov,

I think to speak to your hesitations of the saturation of STRs many people get intimidated by the amount of competition that these markets bring. Competition will definitely increase the risk in theory of diving into any market whether it is LA,FL,TN, ETC. Where there are more rentals there are more options for guests to choose where to stay. However competition also speaks to the health of that market as well. Where there is a solidified STR market there is much less likelihood of future legislation prohibition. Also in these areas with healthier STR markets there is much longer history of sustained travel to these locations limiting the chances of decrease travel over time. Finally in the more matured markets the vendors to include agents,lenders,cleaner, handymen, managers, etc are all seasoned and know the ins and outs of the industry. This allows you to have a much smoother transition and acquisition of team members initially to make you successful.

Wish you the best of luck my friend! 


 Hey Josh,

I agree with you 100% I am going to start traveling and looking into properties and meeting with local agents to get a first hand perspective, and that would help me to move quicker.  I appreciate the support, it honestly gave me a burst of motivation, because for the past month I started doubting by strategy but after hearing so many people's opinions and encouragement I'm mentally ready to make a move.  Thank You

Quote from @Kevin Pillow:

I would second what Jossalyn said about the Florida Panhandle. Also, Governor Desantis just announced the longest Red Snapper fishing season ever in state history. This is just one more example of how the state supports tourism growth, especially on the coast and STR property owners here are the ones that benefit the most.


 Thank you for your input Kevin, I have been learning and hearing so much about the Florida Panhandle and will certainly come down to become more familiar and knowledgeable.