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All Forum Posts by: Ashly B.

Ashly B. has started 29 posts and replied 125 times.

Post: Current investor needing some help figuring out long term plan

Ashly B.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Des Moines, IA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 24
Totally agree and great article! Many good points

Post: Current investor needing some help figuring out long term plan

Ashly B.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Des Moines, IA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 24
Thank you... I needed this pep talk. I just need to toughen up 😊 was easier when I was married and I could handle the fun parts like renovations and meeting tenants and he could deal with maintenance and dealing with problem tenants haha

Post: Current investor needing some help figuring out long term plan

Ashly B.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Des Moines, IA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 24

Current situation. I own a 4 plex purchased in June 2015. Spent a couple years working through total overhaul renovations on an on and off basis while renting those that weren't being renovated. While there were a few bumps in the road, I still think it was a great investment deal. Purchased for $95k and in its roach infested, poorly maintained status it was grossing $2k/mo. Now fully renovated, it grosses $3,300 for 2 studios and 2 1-br units. I had always planned to hold it because the return is so great but there's a few downsides: 

1. I hate managing tenants. They're needy, they never pay on time, the turn over is pretty high (but vacancy is low), and I'm too nice to enforce fees, etc. Admittedly I let them off too easy because I'd rather not deal with listening to peoples sob stories about why rent is late or they need out of their lease early. 

2. Due to a divorce, I was forced to take out a 401k loan in order to pay off 2 HELOCs totaling $30k that had been used for apartment renovations. I'm pretty conservative with my money and knowing the loans would have to be paid in full if something happened with my job makes me super uncomfortable. I wouldn't have done it if I'd had any other option. Its currently on a 5 year repayment plan. 

3. Another wrench in my plan came when I initially thought I'd do a cash out refi to buy my next rental after putting in all the sweat equity on this place. When I refinanced last spring to try and roll in renovation costs and see what I could get beyond that amount my appraisal came back SUPER low. Appraisal was done through the lender so maybe that was my first mistake. They basically said they couldn't find any comparables so they had to go with what was out there and they valued my property on a per unit basis alongside some 4-8 plexes with double the bedrooms that rent for 70% of what mine do (aka akin to the status of the condition of mine prior to renovations). 

So here I am 3 years after purchase, wanting to expand my portfolio but feeling stuck because I also want to snowball this 401k loan. I don't have the money for a down payment on another property and when I run the numbers I probably wouldn't for another year and a half. This place is in a transitional historic neighborhood. All the investors are coming in and flipping historic properties and the young professionals are going crazy for the cheaper than downtown rent. I think an investor who has more grit to manage tenants or a property management company would go nuts for this place. My gut says I can sell it for enough to pay off the mortgage and the 401k and walk with $150k (although I'm working with a realtor to verify I'm not being too lofty with my assessment). But if I sold it, I don't even know what I'd do with $150k. I want to "retire" (aka not be tied to my corporate job anymore) in 10 years. I need cashflow from my rentals for retirement. What I can't wrap my head around is if I need to suck it up with the current property, pay down the loan and wait a few years to buy my next property or if I'd be better off selling, paying off the debt and picking up 2-3 other properties in the $100-150k range. Or maybe I just need a different investment avenue that doesn't involve tenants at all since that doesn't really seem to be my thing... how can I snowball my hypothetical $150k into something bigger? 

Post: Best tax stragegy for my situation?

Ashly B.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Des Moines, IA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 24

Currently have 1 4-plex and I'm looking to expand my portfolio this year. I recently got divorced and he kept the primary residence. As a now single person with no mortgage deduction, a 6 figure income and only getting to claim my dependent every other year, I'm terrified to see what my tax situation looks like this year. I'm wondering what the most advantageous way to use my rental is. Up until now I've always just filed it as part of my regular taxes. I actually have an LLC but never got around to doing anything with it. I'm getting ready to refi the rental to roll in some renovation costs and I'm wondering if now is the time to move it over to the LLC and how much of a tax advantage that has. Appreciate any advice.

Post: HELOC or Cash-out refi?

Ashly B.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Des Moines, IA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 24

I need to know where you all are financing. I'm hitting nothing but walls. Every bank and CU I've talked to says no HELOC on an investment property and 70% LTV... which would have been fine but my appraisal came back WAY lower than anticipated so I'm basically looking at $30k cash out which is just enough to cover the renovation costs I wanted to roll in, nothing left over to roll into a new property. The comps are a joke - I have 4 1 bedroom, nicely done units near downtown that are renting for $800-900/mo and the comps are 1-3 bedroom low income housing that rent for $500-750 a piece with units that are smaller with 2-3 bedrooms than my one bedroom. I can make it work but the numbers aren't favorable - interest rate on the mortgage will go up 1%, closing costs are $4k and I'm getting less cash than planned. Just curious if there are any national banks worth looking into or alternatively, has anyone ever disputed an appraisal?

Post: City permit issue. Should I hire a lawyer?

Ashly B.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Des Moines, IA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 24
Originally posted by @Jim Adrian:

@Patti Robertson hit the nail on the head here!  You may need to open the plumbing walls for the inspector to see if you haven't passed inspections yet.  You should of hired a GC to take care of this.  I would go spend some money on a lawyer for damage control at this point.  I don't think the money bleeding is done.   You should be lucky the tenants are coorperating with you.

 Hindsight is 20/20. If I had known the delays we'd hit, forseen all the hidden hazards and half-assed work the last landlord left behind and predicted that I'd end up going though a divorce in the middle of all this I would have done things a lot differently. But I didn't and now I'm trying to do some damage control and overcome this hump. 

There won't be any wall opening, the plumbing inspector already looked at all that. Its the installed fixtures he wants to see before he will close it - literally coming to look at my shower head, bathroom sinks and kitchen sinks and make sure they were done by a licensed plumber. That's all that's holding this up. 

Post: City permit issue. Should I hire a lawyer?

Ashly B.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Des Moines, IA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 24

While I appreciate your candor, I'm not blaming Home Depot, I just think its unfortunate that a girl has been displaced from her home over an issue that doesn't impact her or her living situation. She does not have family in the area which is why we settled on the arrangements they did. I moved her out in compliance and the city passed it along anyway as illegal occupancy. I've done everything they've asked and they're turning it in as non-compliance anyway. Now that the situation is being passed to legal with the city, she is going to be out even longer and the other 3 tenants who have all signed contracts and are ready to move in won't be able to even though the project will be complete tomorrow. Doesn't matter whether I get the inspector out because its going to be held up until the legal review is settled. 

Post: HELOC or Cash-out refi?

Ashly B.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Des Moines, IA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 24
Originally posted by @Andrew K.:

Ashly B. May not answer your question directly but I'm working on getting a HELOC on one of my properties. I like the HELOC as I plan on using it like a checking account to fund portions of other projects.

I'll rinse and repeat for as long as the HELOC is viable. Gives me the flexibility to put a large chunk down on a property or purchase materials for a rehab.

Good luck and keep us posted!

-Andrew

Good point. I have about $30k i want to immediately roll in from renovations but I may not buy my next place for 4-6 months... Probably makes more sense to do a HELOC in that scenario otherwise I'm going to be paying interest on the cash I'm sitting on, and honestly won't know how much I need until it gets closer.

Post: HELOC or Cash-out refi?

Ashly B.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Des Moines, IA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 24
Originally posted by @Aaron Howell:

They'll definitely do an appraisal for either option. You may avoid a lot of closing costs with a HELOC but I'd say with either option you'll only get about 80% LTV (so about $20K either option).

I'm confused. The property was worth $100k when I bought it but I just gutted and renovated the whole building. It will be 80% of the new value, correct? Which should be somewhere around $225k, which will give me more like $120k unless I'm misunderstanding the process

Post: HELOC or Cash-out refi?

Ashly B.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Des Moines, IA
  • Posts 126
  • Votes 24

I understand the difference between the two, just curious if there's a reason to choose one over another. Current mortgage is for $60k at  around 3.5%. House was valued at $100k when I bought it a year ago. After $50k of renovations, I'd like to roll up some of the debt I took on from renovations and take out additional for my next investment. I've done a little market research and think it will value between $200-250k (its hard to find comparables for a 4-plex so I'm struggling to get a closer dollar amount...not sure how much comparable number of units plays in?). Anyway, since the house was worth less when I took out the original mortgage does that impact the amount I'd be able to pull or do they reappraise either way so doesn't really matter?