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All Forum Posts by: Ashley Wolfe

Ashley Wolfe has started 37 posts and replied 172 times.

Post: Analyze this! Just went to see what I thought would be a turn-key

Ashley WolfePosted
  • Realtor
  • Bedford, TX
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 55
Originally posted by @Rachel H.:

Once you get to know the sellers and gain their trust (it may take a few conversations going back and forth), then you should ask them if you could get a few estimates from contractors on the work needing to be performed and go from there. If they say "yes," then start getting your estimates together. Try to get a few estimates for each job needing repairs. 

Great advice, thanks so much for your response!

Post: Texas - Mobile Home Buying

Ashley WolfePosted
  • Realtor
  • Bedford, TX
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 55

great questions which I don't know any of the answers to but I'm following this post.  I'm looking to buy a MH where owner owes taxes but says there's no lien.  Good to know there's paperwork for that just in case there actually is a lien.

Post: Analyze this! Just went to see what I thought would be a turn-key

Ashley WolfePosted
  • Realtor
  • Bedford, TX
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 55

Many properties in my area (DFW) are being sold for more than what appears on our county tax assessor's website for 2014/2015. For example, my 3/2/2, 1200sf SFH has a value of $80,000 according to the tax assessor. However, we could list our home tomorrow for $140K.

Clearly I understand that I'm comparing apples to oranges bc a mobile home is not officially real estate and our house is.

My point is, I think (and I could be wrong) that I could rehab this property and sell it for $27K.

Thank you all for the input, this really helps as BP is my one and only location for industry professionals to weigh in on this situation.

I know my first deal won't be... well, ideal.  But hey, I want to do a little more than break even and get one under my belt.

I'm also trying to talk to a different seller who lives in a pre-1985 2/1, owes about $700 in taxes (no lien), and is asking $4000.  Needs new AC and extensive work although I don't know how extensive yet. She hasn't picked up the phone.  Property is not on market.  This is info given to me by park mgr.

Post: Analyze this! Just went to see what I thought would be a turn-key

Ashley WolfePosted
  • Realtor
  • Bedford, TX
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 55
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Ashley Wolfe  what do you want it for .. if its worth 20k  and it has 8k in repairs and you offer 11k.. were does that get you.. maybe I am missing something.

if your intentions are to use it as a rental. if its in a park just double check they allow rentals. some parks as you probably know do not

Thank you for asking. My end goal is to fix and flip this property. I would list it on the MLS and as many other online platforms as possible with a price of $27,000. I found another exact make and model that was fully rehabbed for this price in San Antonio. It looked great.

Plan B is to rent it out.  I need to talk to park management about it.

Post: Analyze this! Just went to see what I thought would be a turn-key

Ashley WolfePosted
  • Realtor
  • Bedford, TX
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 55

@JohnFedro @RachelH, I'd love to know what you think of this deal.

Post: Analyze this! Just went to see what I thought would be a turn-key

Ashley WolfePosted
  • Realtor
  • Bedford, TX
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 55
Originally posted by @Leonard Maddox:

first off look up the value of the home in the NADA for manufactured homes they have it

My husband is a loan officer so he can access this info.

getting that home down in the five to $10,000 range would be a good idea considering the work that you need to do to it

Just got off the phone with the seller.  They're sticking firm to $20K. 

So, at this point, do we just make our offer of $11K and see what they do?  Then we walk away nicely and see if they call us back?

Post: Analyze this! Just went to see what I thought would be a turn-key

Ashley WolfePosted
  • Realtor
  • Bedford, TX
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 55

Ok, I just went out to look at my first potential deal.  Its a 3/2, 1,280 square foot single-wide MH, 1999 Fleetwood.  The title is free and clear according to the owner.  Its been on the market (meaning Zillow) since June.  There is no real estate agent working this property. The owners have already moved 10 hours away but did not finish some cosmetic renovations to the home prior to moving out.  They are motivated, asking $20K and willing to negotiate.  The state taxes of ~$350 are (if I remember correctly) due in December for 2016 and she said she really doesn't want to pay those, another reason for her motivation to sell.  There are paint cans and trim pieces piled up in the living room because the seller is in the middle of completing that project.  She says is just two hours worth of work but I tend to disagree after looking at the existing trim in the house, all the trim from the floor to the ceiling needs an overhaul to look new again.

In the five years they lived in the home the owners replaced or renovated the following:

AC, dishwasher, windows (double paned with blinds in between panes, can open to reach the blinds), flooring (throughout was very nice but I'd replace the peel-n-stick with laminate so it would be laminate throughout), sheetrock, texture, and paint throughout, ceiling fans and light fixtures throughout, sinks in both bathrooms, chain link fence dog run added, and a storage shed.

Other positives:  I talked to neighbors and they are very happy living there, there is a beautiful and big rec center, gym, kids playground, monthly potlucks, people wave to each other as they drive by, there's a craft group that meets, etc.  There are really nice homes in this park and not so nice ones that need a little work.  Large trees.  All the homes had skirting and seemed occupied.  Several homes looked less than five years old.  The neighbor who let me in said that the park maintains the trees.  I was very concerned about a large branch that went right over the master bedroom area of the house. I saw lawn crews next to the rec center.  Most lawns were well maintained.  No pets over 25 lbs.  All owners and tenants are subject to a background check.  I have yet to talk to the management about renting options.  Manager lives on-site.

Ok, those are the things that are positive about the home and community.

Now for the things I feel would need to be added/completed/renovated before ready for sale or rent:

New gutters - ~$800

Laminate flooring in kitchen and bathrooms to match entire house - estimated $500

Stove/Oven - ~$600

Fridge - $700

W/D (optional) - $600

Window in master bedroom - $200

Ceiling fan in master bedroom - $200

Kitchen sink - $200

Redo all door trim/paint all doors/rehang, replace or adjust a few doors - ~$500 (just a guess)

Add small door to water heater closet ~$100

New master bathtub - ~$800

3-4 panels of skirting need to be replaced - $ (no idea) but estimating $200

Ramp/Stairs/Deck leading to front door needs to be replaced - $1000

Landscaping in front - $200

Cleaning entire home to make ready for sale - $200

I'd like to get a foundation specialist to look under the home (free)

Roofing specialist to talk to me about the metal roof (free)

I need to ask her about the furnace (forced air) and its age and working condition.

I need to factor in about three months of lot rent (at $375 per month) for the renovations to be completed - $1125

And I'd like to have $1000 set aside for unexpected rehab expenses

GRAND TOTAL = $8925

This would mean that our negotiations to the seller would start at $11,075.

First, are these figures anywhere close to realistic?

Next, if I do some aggressive marketing for selling it and get a real estate agent to list it on the MLS, would I have a greater chance of getting it sold? My assumption is that its truly not move-in ready and that is why its been for sale for so long. It doesn't even have a stove and oven. I bet that most people looking to move are also looking for a move-in ready house, not a semi-move-in ready house.

The market value is $20,000.

What should be my asking price if I make all the renovations?

How long should it be on the market before I decide to try to screen for tenants?

What should I charge for monthly rent? Deposit?

Where do I start looking for contractors who work on MHs?

If I decide to go forward with purchasing the property, other than a Bill of Sale, what documents do I need?  I've seen people mention an SOL.  What is that for and why do I need it?  I'm keeping the property where it is, not moving it.

What else do I need to do?  I'm hoping to make this deal to get the first one over with and to create a net of at least 10% so I can put money into learning more about MH Investing. (I'm leaning toward the Mobile Home Formula course.)

Whew, that was a long post.  Thanks for making it this far.  I appreciate your input.

Post: I should have posted this here first.

Ashley WolfePosted
  • Realtor
  • Bedford, TX
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 55

My first deal may be in the works, it's actually a combo of three different mobile homes, two in the same park and one in a different park.  One is practically a turn-key situation, one needs major work and has back-taxes owed, and one is still undetermined but also may need some work.

Please read here: https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/311/topics/24...

Post: Good deal? Please weigh in, I need your input!

Ashley WolfePosted
  • Realtor
  • Bedford, TX
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 55
Originally posted by @Belinda Lopez:

A few other comments.  You can look up the home history on the Texas Manufactured Home records site.  It will show ownership as well as any liens.  TX does not use "Titles" any longer but Statement of Locations (SOL), read about that process on the same site.  You will also need to look in the local taxing authorities to see about the back taxes due.  When you go to update the SOL, you will have to pay all back taxes plus pre-pay taxes for the next year.

The Park will have to approve any tenant or owner if you end up selling and they want to live on-site.  Make absolutely sure the home can stay in the Park BEFORE you purchase it.  Keep the Park Mgr informed of exactly what is going on and what your plans for the home are.  Get a copy of the Park rules and application and anyone wanting to rent or buy and live in the home HAS to be pre-approved by the Park.

I'd say your $620 is a dream number and your actual cash flow will be more like $2-300 after taxes, insurance (if you can get it) and maintenance, turnover and management.

 You're right, $620 is a dream number.  However, if rented or seller financed, this may be a good cash flow situation.  My plan is to develop relationships with the park mgrs as best as I can in order to stay in good standing with the park.

In the purchase of the home, would I use a bill of sale and acquire the SOL.  Also, what about the note?  I've read in Deals on Wheels that notes were created and carried in seller finance deals.  I don't quite understand this part of it so any input would be greatly appreciated on this subject.

Post: Good deal? Please weigh in, I need your input!

Ashley WolfePosted
  • Realtor
  • Bedford, TX
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 55
Originally posted by @Belinda Lopez:

. . .  Lot rent is $375/month so we could charge up to $995/month and make $620/month in passive income if all those numbers work out. And this is pretty much a turn-key situation.

Being a landlord on a rented Mobile Home is not a passive income if you're going to have to manage yourself.  MHs are a niche investment and have much higher management costs than SFHs.  How far from your home is the property?  Are you going to be doing all the repairs?  on call 24-7 for emergencies?  Owner financing out the home will eliminate those expenses and time.

Look up John Fedro and his program for MH investing before you jump into this niche.

 Awesome and thanks for the resource suggestion.  I may have misused the term "turn-key" in that the mobile home I'm looking at for $20K is not in need of major repairs to make the home livable and rentable.  Selling it with owner financing is my first option, I should have mentioned that as well.  You're completely correct, being a landlord is not passive.  If I went that route, I'd hire a property management company, even if it was for one property.