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All Forum Posts by: Arya Chen

Arya Chen has started 4 posts and replied 12 times.

Quote from @Gabriel Graumann:

@Arya Chen despite limited reversal in a few select markets with oversupply, the general demand for this product type is very high, leading to lower cap rates that likely won't change much in the near term. Compared to other commercial asset classes, storage remains one of the strongest performers in the market. If you can find one with a true net 10% cap rate, you should be asking "why" is there such a large discount. Likely tied to supply/demand issues, aging facility with high cap ex, and operating costs increases. As you're new to this space, I would recommend partnering with an experienced investor/operator in this space that has several facilities under management create a strategy for investing in this space.


I was working with an experienced agent to negotiate a deal. He actually recommended that I go with an even lower price than I was initially willing to, to ensure I wouldn't lose money on my SBA loan estimate. However, this price is much lower than the listing, and the seller is unlikely to accept it. Unfortunately, my agent dropped me yesterday, and now I feel more lost than ever.
If someone knows any TX agent specializing in Self Storage, please reach out!

 
Quote from @Peter P.:

Hi Arya, some feedback on some of your assumptions in your analysis. Your target occupancy of 100% and expense ratio of 33% is a bit optimistic. The national average for occupancy has fallen to 87% (2023). If you're new to this asset class you might want to use 85%. Expense ratios vary dramatically depending on project size, age and other factors, but basic rule of thumb is the smaller the project the higher the expense ratio's, using a 33% expense ratio for a small facility (less than 150 units) is optimistic, smaller facilities are probably closer to 40%. You are not crazy :) cap rates on storage got pretty crazy in the last decade as the space has become crowded and money was cheap, starting to see some reversal of that now, but its tough to find deals at a true 10 cap (10 x NOI or NOI / .10). Hope this helps!


Really appreciate the feedback! I wasn’t aware that a smaller facility could have expenses close to 40%. Is that a number that typically stays consistent every year, or is it only that high during the first 1-2 years before stabilizing?

Post: Self storage broker or mentor recommend?

Arya ChenPosted
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Hey BP community,

I’m investing in a self-storage facility for the first time and have narrowed down my options to a few properties, mainly in Texas, New York or Arkansas.

1. I’m looking to work with a broker who has experience with self-storage transactions to ensure a smoother process for a first-time buyer. Does anyone have recommendations?

2. If not, how do people typically get started with their first deal? Would it be worth paying a mentor for guidance on structuring the LOI and analyzing the finances together. Any recommendation?

Thanks!

Quote from @Rene Hosman:

Hi @Arya Chen you may have better luck if you post in the Classifieds section of the forum specific to the areas you're looking in because those forums are location specific!


 Oh gotchat. Thanks!

Hey BP community,

I’m investing in a self-storage facility for the first time and have narrowed down my options to a few properties, mainly in Texas, New York or Arkansas.

1. I’m looking to work with a broker who has experience with self-storage transactions to ensure a smoother process for a first-time buyer. Does anyone have recommendations?

2. If not, how do people typically get started with their first deal? Would it be worth paying a mentor for guidance on structuring the LOI and analyzing the finances together. Any recommendation?

Thankkkkkks!


    I’m working on analyzing the following self-storage properties and wanted to see if my approach makes sense. I'm still learning the ropes, so any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated!

    For these properties, I've calculated the Net Operating Income (NOI) based on 100% occupancy, then subtracted approximately 33% for expenses.

    Storage 1

    • Unit Number: 105
    • Size of Land: Litter under 1acre, probably not expandable
    • Population: about 34K within 3 miles,
    • Population Growth: 2-5% per year
    • Traffic Count: about 4K
    • Rent at 100%: $110K
    • Projected NOI after deducting 33%: $73.7K
    • Asking: $900K
    • Offer price: $730-780K?

    Storage 2

    • Unit Number: 145
    • Size of Land: about 0.6acre, not expandable
    • Population: about 900K within 3 miles
    • Population Growth: declining
    • Rent at 100%: 98K
    • Projected NOI: 65K
    • Asking: 750K
    • Offer price: 650-680K?

    Storage 3

    • Unit Number: 158
    • Size of Land: 1.3acre
    • Location: close to home, can actually manage from time to time
    • Population: about 38K within 3 miles
    • Population Growth: Neutral
    • Rent at 100%: don’t have exact layout but nearby 5x5 is $25, 5x10 is $45, 10x10 is $65
    • Projected NOI: guessing 100K to 120K?
    • Capita: 23
    • Asking: unpriced
    • Offer price: 10 times the 100k-120k? But the capita is high in this location though, how to balance this?

    Am I crazy or most of the time the asking price is wayyyy too high? 

    Quote from @Henry Clark:

    SBA loans take to long for a location that is for sale.  Get a Construction or Working Capital loan with your local bank.  Make the purchase then convert to SBA loan.  Let your bank know that up front.  Do interest only on the local loan.  Make sure the deal will go thru.  You don't want to get caught with an increased down payment %.  Say 10% for SBA loan.  But if it falls thru and your bank requires 25%.  

    Larger banks are normally better for SBA loans, because they have more personnel and can have someone specialize.  I would go for a midsize regional bank, with a Federal lending Cap limit of say $10mm or higher.  That should cover your scaling needs.

    If I am only buying, does the construction or working capital loan still apply? I talked to Chase, but they don’t offer SBA loans for self-storage; they require the owner to occupy a certain percentage of the building/storage, which is not the case with self-storage. I also spoke with another smaller bank, but they require too much down payment and the rates are around 10% now. My family has a chunk of unused HELOC; would it be a smart move to use the HELOC to buy in cash and then pursue an SBA loan after owning it?
    Quote from @Henry Clark:

    3.  Great Deals.  Always go for positive cash flow with potential for appreciation or don't do the deal.  Construction costs have almost doubled in the last 4 to 5 years.  We just sold 3 locations in a C market.  Little debt, 100% occupancy, great cash flow, market needs more units.  Why did we sale?  Couldn't add units and make enough return.  Wanted to take funds out so we could invest in an A market.  Rates are too high, so didn't want to take a loan against, although we will have a loan on the next property, but the returns are significantly higher there.

    Do an analysis on your market.  C market- if your 10x20 drive up non climate controlled is say $80 or less, the return isn't high enough for new construction.  I would want my 10 x 20 rate to be $110 or higher to do new build.  Same thought on buying an existing location.

    We use a Wagon Wheel and or Linked approach to competition.  If you're operating in C markets and can control the market, then buy the next locations down the road.  Then you can raise prices, above your original Deal analysis.

    I am not planning to build but just buy for the first one. I would even be content with neutral or just a small positive cash flow to get it rolling. Honestly, making the right decision to sell and allocate it somewhere with higher returns is even more difficult than buying. I’ve been holding some SFH in different states but have never made the move to sell and reinvest.
    Also need to look into this Wagon Wheel and Linked Approach you mentioned. Thx
    Quote from @Henry Clark:

    2 above.  If you plan to scale, then below $1mm is actually a great learning platform.  Will be your worst investment compared to your future deals.  But it will be the one you remember because it helped you set your operations up.  If you fail.  You fail small.

    If it has extra land, then it can be a great deal, if the market needs more.  Or you can add parking.

    Thank you! Now I know I am not crazy haha.
    That's exactly what I thought, and yes, it’s so true that "It will be your worst investment compared to your future deals. But it will be the one you remember because it helped you set up your operations. If you fail, you fail small."
    Quote from @Henry Clark:

    1 above.  I always like having a Buyers Agent.  "But" if a small location in a small town, I would just go with the listing agent.  If you plan to Scale.  Pick a buyers agent that deals in your type of investments.  By giving them "Free" commissions and doing a deal with them, you gain more credence.  How to make an offer and due diligence, they won't be that helpful.  Very few agents unless they are one of the National Self Storage firms will understand Self Storage, although it is very similar to large MFH.  You need to develop your own deal analysis and due diligence.  Just use the lookup function above.

    If a buyer agent won’t be very helpful even for writing offers or doing due diligence, would it make a difference if I use a "residential" agent instead of a "commercial" agent? One of the commercial agents I contacted has only one cash deal transaction experience in self-storage. 

    What kind of help you would expect from an agent when you are using one.