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All Forum Posts by: Arron Paulino

Arron Paulino has started 58 posts and replied 233 times.

Post: Withdrawing the principle of a Roth IRA penalty and tax free

Arron PaulinoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • South San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 248
  • Votes 89
Originally posted by @Ollie Bockwinkel:

@Arron Paulino you can withdraw contributions from a ROTH IRA at any time with no penalty, and those withdrawals are treated as contributions first, then once cumulative contributions are exhausted, and only then, is there considered a distribution subject to tax/penalties before the qualifying rules (retirement age, 5 years, etc.) go into effect.  So let's say you contributed $6,000 in 2019 and $6,000 in 2020 and the investments have appreciated to $13,000 total.  Within the Roth, you sell enough of the securities to distribute $12,000, leave the remaining $1,000 invested, and distribute the $12,000 cash.  100% of that cash is a tax-free return of your original contributions/principal.

If you are also trying to keep the Roth fully funded as much as possible, yes, you have 60 days to get the $12,000 funds (or whatever amount you're working with) back into the account.  It is treated as a rollover in IRS lingo.

Either way, make sure you have a very clear record of the cumulative contributions you have made to the Roth and any distributions you make reducing that contributed base.

Ollie B.

Thank you for the reply! So essentially, if I needed let's say $20k (for a down payment/to purchase a property) from my Roth IRA, I'd have to sell off the investment first and then withdraw those funds (the principal amount, not the gains over the years) once sold from my account. I will then have 60 days to return those withdrawn funds ($20k) back into my Roth IRA (I'm sure there is a way to do so instead of counting it as a contribution for the year somewhere in the portal). I'm trying to time this with another investment that I have made (refinance/note maturing) so I can reroute those received funds back into my Roth IRA. Am I understanding this correctly?

I only plan on doing this strategy once/when needed (Is there a limit to how many times this can be done? Like 12 months at a time?). I ran into a situation where I'm in a pinch and this would help me out as I am working on scaling my portfolio.

Post: Withdrawing the principle of a Roth IRA penalty and tax free

Arron PaulinoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • South San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 248
  • Votes 89

Hi Mathew. I'm in the same boat at the moment. Were you able to withdraw funds from your Roth IRA from Fidelity at the time you posted this? I've read in the forums and Googling that the principal invested can be withdrawn without penalty if it is returned within 60 days from withdrawal. Not sure how accurate this is or not. I need additional funds for a deal I'm about to do and would greatly benefit from pulling out of the Roth IRA and then replacing it down the road before the deadline. Look forward to your response!

Post: Business Credit and Accounts

Arron PaulinoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • South San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 248
  • Votes 89

Hello All,

How do I acquire business credit to purchase buy and hold rental properties? How does the whole process work? This has me curious since this appeared on my YouTube feed and I'm currently delving into this and/or dipping into hard/private money for purchasing properties. Is business credit more advantageous than hard/private money or vice-versa?

Also, can anyone recommend who I should think about opening a business checking and/or savings account with? I was rereading Brandon Turner's book on How to Invest in Rental Properties and stumbled upon this concept.I currently just use a personal account for my funds, but realize it could be beneficial to have a business account to separate my personal and business funds. Look forward to responses!

Post: Financing Options Other Than Investing Capital

Arron PaulinoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • South San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 248
  • Votes 89
Originally posted by @George C.:

@Arron Paulino Here's a financial example of a typical BRRRRR investor when combining with a hard money loan, hopefully it is helpful for you: The investor buys a fixer upper for 100k and obtain a hard money loan for 90% of purchase price and 100% of the 50k rehab. Which means $10K down payment plus closing costs/fees to consummate the loan. 

They now have a loan amount of 140k and will be paying interest-only monthly payments during the course of the term. 4 months later the rehab is done and the property now appraises at 220k. At that point, they refinance into a 30 year loan.

They refinance at 70% of the new value and obtain a 30-year loan of 154k before payoff of the 140k hard money loan, which would leave 14K to pull out before closing costs on the refi. In the end the borrower is left with approximately a similar amount of down payment money when they started the process to purchase the fixer upper to repeat the process all over again with a different property. 

The investor will be paying mortgage on the $154K loan going forward for 30 years.

The numbers may be simplified here but hopefully this helps you understand how it flows using some values.

Thanks for the reply! This example is helpful and breaks in down in my head. Essentially from what I'm reading, you gain 66k in equity for owning the home and 10k for the down payment plus 4k for approximate closing costs to repeat. Is this correct? Also, ideally an investor would plan to have enough in reserves beforehand for interest-only payments during the term of the hard money loan right (in this case, approximately 5k on top of the 14k for purchase ≈ 20k)?

Post: Financing Options Other Than Investing Capital

Arron PaulinoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • South San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 248
  • Votes 89

Thanks for the reply! I have heard of a HELOC as an option, but I currently do not own my own primary residence. Do you have experience with a personal line of credit?

I vaguely understand hard money. I'm guessing I'll have to come up with monthly payments to issue back to the lender on top of their profit/money back at the end of term. Do you mean private lending when you mention non-conventional? 

Post: Financing Options Other Than Investing Capital

Arron PaulinoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • South San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 248
  • Votes 89

I have recently invested in 2 BRRRR deals where I used my personal saved capital on. My question is: How can I keep the ball rolling for more properties in terms of financing for them? I do have reserves saved for the 2 BRRRR deals. I do have enough money in my personal Roth IRA to purchase a property, but do not understand how I could potentially use those funds for another BRRRR (I think I read somewhere that I am able to pull out $10,000 max without penalty so long as the funds are paid within 2 months. Seems like enough for a rehab, but not a property. Could someone verify?).

Should I just wait to the cash out refinance later on and then go for another 2 then while continuing to save from my day job? I do not want to miss out on deals where the numbers work out and want to add them to my portfolio. I know of hard money lending, but am not very familiar with this route followed by refinancing. I look forward to hearing from the community!

Post: 1st Rental Property Out-of-State

Arron PaulinoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • South San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 248
  • Votes 89
Originally posted by @Nick Robinson:

@Arron Paulino
Congrats on your 1st rental property!! Whats your reno budget? Whats the ARV or market value after renovation?

Thanks! I'm currently rehabbing it. My budget was $30k and my contractor is saying it'll be around $27.5k to renovate. The ARV I came up with is $65k. So I've decided to go with the buy and hold strategy rather than flip.

Post: Uninsurable Title On Real Estate Property

Arron PaulinoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • South San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 248
  • Votes 89
Originally posted by @Jason Crittenden:

@Arron Paulino 1000%, if they don’t feel comfortable with the chain of title, YOU shouldn’t either. Walk on that deal.

 As much as I like the numbers on this one, I'll take your advice and follow my agent's lead. Thanks!

Post: Uninsurable Title On Real Estate Property

Arron PaulinoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • South San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 248
  • Votes 89
Originally posted by @Steve Morris:

How about asking the title company what it would take to remove this cloud on title?

You may have to hire an atty and it may take a while.  But you'd think with a tax sale, there'd be some sort of release/satisfaction in the county records somewhere.

 Thanks for the reply! Would the worst case scenario be that I would be responsible for the unpaid taxes essentially? Maybe asking for a price reduction due to this would make it worth it. I looked into the county tax records and see that taxes on this property go up to 2012 with interest and principal on taxes totaling about $6k. What do you think?

Post: Uninsurable Title On Real Estate Property

Arron PaulinoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • South San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 248
  • Votes 89
Originally posted by @Bill O'Donnell:

@Arron Paulino

Have you tried another title company?

Under no circumstances should you purchase a property that doesn't qualify for title insurance...

Thanks for the reply! I have a title company I trust on the ground and would rather not stray from them if they can't get it done. Looks like I'll be passing on this deal.