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All Forum Posts by: Armand Ngassam

Armand Ngassam has started 6 posts and replied 19 times.

Post: Free internship advice

Armand NgassamPosted
  • Newark, DE
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 14

Thanks Scott for your point. My idea was to gain real estate training in return of my time in helping! I sincerely appreciate your wisdom!

Post: Free internship advice

Armand NgassamPosted
  • Newark, DE
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 14

Was any of you lucky to learn through a free internship? How did you find it and what was your criteria in your search? I spoke to a few people I wanted to work for free and they ended up willing to sell me a program, which is ok. However, my financial situation does not allow me at this time to buy those programs. Any advise, guidance or telling about your experience would be tremendously appreciated. Thanks!

Post: Getting A Real Estate License?

Armand NgassamPosted
  • Newark, DE
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Ujwal Velagapudi:

I learned through investing first, and then second by getting licensed. I found it much easier in absorbing more from the classes after having a few years under my belt investing. If you do go straight into getting licensed, just keep in mind fees will amount to ~$2k/yr, give or take a few hundred bucks depending on your local area. I found this cost to be negligible and saw the value in a license because I could skip the middleman and source my own deals via the MLS and/or represent myself in a purchase/sale.

Personally, I would recommend learning under another agent, RE investor, contractor, etc. Working part time for someone else will give you a little insight to what their business is and let you know what direction you would like to go. Also, I've noticed the past few years everybody was getting licensed, saturating the market with so many agents. I'm not sure I would go get a license today hoping to make a career as an agent, but more to use it as a tool to invest yourself or help other investors. 


Thanks for your advice Ujwal!

Post: Getting A Real Estate License?

Armand NgassamPosted
  • Newark, DE
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 14
Originally posted by @Tony Robinson:

@Armand Ngassam sure thing! My first suggestion is to use the BP BRRRR Calculator. It truly walks you through every expense you need to consider.

But it’s basically this formula:

Gross Rents - Principal Payment - Interest Payment - Taxes - Insurance - Property Management - Vacancy - CapEx - Maintenance = Cash Flow

Thanks Tony, I really appreciate your help. I will check the BP BRRRR calculator.

Originally posted by @Tony Robinson:

Hey BP Community!

First, I want to thank you all for the incredible amount of knowledge and support I’ve received from members of this community. I truly believe I would not have closed this deal without Bigger Pockets and all of the resources that it offers. I’m truly GRATEFUL for the relationships I’ve been able to build just by being a member.

I closed on my first investment property in the Fall of 2019 and want to share my experience with everyone. My goal is to show those of you on the sidelines that it truly is possible to get started!

Background:

I live in California but decided to invest out of state. I chose Shreveport, Louisiana because I had family in the area and after visiting and seeing the real estate prices, I decided it’d be a great market to get my feet wet.

I also found a bank in that market that was willing to lend 100% of the purchase price AND the rehab if I found a good enough deal (more on that later).

The Deal:

My realtor and I had been searching for about a month before we came across this deal. It was listed on the MLS for $130,000.

I knew that zip code pretty well, and after confirming with my realtor, we were confident that the house could appraise for at least $215,000 after being rehabbed.

I asked my realtor to put an offer in at $110,000, and she told me I should go lower to $100,000 (that’s the kind of realtor that EVERY investor should be looking for!). I took her advice and made the offer at $100,000.

As my agent was prepping the offer, I asked my GC (who was referred by both my realtor and my mortgage officer at the bank) to swing by the property and draw up a bid based on some reference properties I sent him.


My agent got back to me, and lo and behold, they accepted the offer!

The Financing:

Here’s the best part of the story.

My bank in Shreveport, Aneca Federal Credit Union, offers an AMAZING loan program that allows me to fund 100% of the purchase price AND the rehab as long as the total is 72% or less of the ARV.

I was simultaneously talking with the bank while working with my GC and realtor. I let the bank know what the offer price was, the rehab bid amount, and what my realtor said the ARV should come out to.

They double-checked the numbers on their side, and then we were off to the races!

That’s a huge benefit of working with smaller, local banks. They know the market because they live there. And they typically have more flexibility than the larger, national banks.

The Rehab and Renting:

Once the deal closed, my GC got to work.

The house was built in the 50s, and the entire thing hadn’t been touched since then. There was this crazy parquet flooring throughout the house, all of the bathrooms had pink tile, there was this odd room right off the kitchen that no one could really tell what it was used for, exterior and interior paint was peeling and dated… to name a few.

Since I lived out of state, I would check in the GC on a weekly basis to see how things were coming along. One of the good things about having the bank fund the rehab was that they would send a bank representative to inspect all of the work being done before releasing a draw to the GC. So I had a built-in team member to validate that the work the GC said he was doing, was actually getting done.

The rehab was originally slated to last 8 weeks, and it ended up taking 12. But all in all, I was happy with the end result.

Once the rehab was completed, the keys were passed off to my Property Manager. We originally listed the property for $1,600, and it sat for over a week with little activity. We dropped it again to $1,550, and still not much activity after another week and a half.

We dropped the price one more time, and almost immediately found a family that wanted to sign a two-year lease! It took four weeks in total, but I was glad to find a great family that wanted to say long term.

The Result:

I feel this was a great first deal. I paid ZERO money out of pocket to close the deal and complete the rehab. My only costs were an inspection fee upfront of about $300 and the interest-only mortgage payments.

Purchase Price: $100,000

Rehab: $55,000

After Repair Value: $230,000

Rent: $1,500

Lessons Learned:

Review the Rehab Bid with Excruciating Detail: There were items in my rehab that we probably could've gone without and achieved the same ARV. The property came out great, but I left some money on the table here.

When You Think You’ve Got a Good Deal, Offer Less: I got a great deal at $100,000, but I missed my profit target. My property taxes shot up a bit more than I had planned. Had I started with a more aggressive offer price, I’d have more money left over at the end of each month. Your first offer should make you feel uncomfortable.

Find the Price Right for Your Rental: My property sat vacant for an entire month because we priced too aggressively. I had to make an extra mortgage payment out of my own pocket because I was pushing for an extra $100 in rent.

Time Your Refinance: I purchased this property using an interest-only construction loan at 6.0% interest. They told me I could either refinance as soon as the construction was complete (Month 3) or wait another three months to do a cash-out refinance. I chose to refinance immediately because I assumed (incorrectly) that a 30 year fixed mortgage at 4.75% would be cheaper than the 6.0% interest-only.

I was wrong.

The 30 year fixed mortgage was more expensive because it also includes escrow payments for my property taxes and home insurance, whereas the interest-only didn’t. For my next property, I made the decision to stick with the interest-only for the entire six month period, and then do a cash-out refinance.

Your First Deal is Mean to Teach!: I preach this all the time, but I truly believe that your first deal is meant to educate you. It’s meant to show you the ropes, and build a foundation that allows you to close on your second, third, fourth and fifth deals. Even if I only would’ve broken even on this deal, I would consider it a win because the true value came in the form of lessons learned.

Before and After:

Again, I’m truly grateful for this community and I’m happy to answer any questions that you have. I’ve learned a lot from this deal and I’m happy to share the good and the bad. I’m a normal guy, with a family and a full-time job. I had zero real estate experience prior to this deal, but I still got it done. So you can too!

Thank you so much for reading!

Hi Tony, do you mind explaining how you calculated your monthly cash flow? I am still struggling with what costs should be taken into account. Thanks

@Tony Robinson Congratulations on your success!! Thank you for sharing your experience here. It is very inspiring to newbies like myself. keep up with the good work...

Post: Getting A Real Estate License?

Armand NgassamPosted
  • Newark, DE
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 14

Hello! What are the benefits of getting a real estate license for a new investor? I met a flipper today and his suggestion to me as a newbie was to go and take that class so that I could learn more about this business. Please could you share your experience? Thank you!

Buy when no one else is....

Originally posted by @Anthoney Hanks: Thank you! I am working on finding partners. 

Welcome to BiggerPockets!! I wish the best for you going forward in 2020! You might consider finding a partner with experience in this area. You can have the opportunity learn and have ownership in the project. Best of luck going forward!