Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here
Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties. Try BiggerPockets PRO.
x
Please log in or sign up for a free account to continue.
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Anthony To

Anthony To has started 7 posts and replied 32 times.

Post: What is the average cost of drawings and permits?

Anthony ToPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 15

For those interested, it looks like California had an ADU grant program that earmarked $100M towards soft costs for ADU development. But all the money has been fully reserved as of March 1, 2023! So looks like we just missed the boat. Bummer, as that would've been nice! More info: https://www.calhfa.ca.gov/adu/

Post: What is the average cost of drawings and permits?

Anthony ToPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Wesley I.:

@Anthony To

You might have heard of the ADU grant which i heard covers even the development cost to build the ADU. Could be worth looking into.

I also want to mention im a local draftsperson here in San Diego.

I would suggest looking into other design companies and compare quotes.

 Hi @Wesley I. thanks for the input! I actually have not heard of the ADU grant but I'll be looking into it now. Would love to pick your brain as a draftsperson, will be dm'ing you!

Post: What is the average cost of drawings and permits?

Anthony ToPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Keegan Wetzel:
Quote from @Anthony To:

I'm in San Diego and looking to convert a three car garage into two 1-1 units. The total square footage is roughly 700 sq ft. There is a 2-1 apt above the garages already. The property is in North Park.

I spoke to ADU Geeks, a San Diego-based firm that specializes in ADU development, and they quoted me ~$36k for all soft costs for both units. Soft costs includes design, permit fees, school fees, water/sewer and title 24. So basically from nothing to permits in hand and ready to build will be $36k.

Does that seem reasonable? Any way for me to get that done cheaper? 

Hi @Anthony To,

Those numbers look pretty solid for a bigger company.  The biggest shave I have seen on soft costs are using a 3rd-party permit runner to maybe save like $5k.  Permits and plans for 2-units probably range $8k-15k.  The City is going to be about $1800 in permit fees and then probably another $3500+ in sewer/water/school/DIF.


Here is a rough quote I received from a bigger company in San Diego to build 4 units where I have an existing 5-garage structure, and this would include partitioning off part of an existing 3 unit to make my 4th unit (so converting the 5 garages into 3 units)

 It feels like a pretty conservative approach....but, for what it's worth, here are the numbers we actually all care about!  And they are pretty tasty, which is why I love investing in this market and helping my clients do the same!


 Thanks for showing these numbers! Very helpful to see how mine compare. I’m going to get some other quotes and see how this all stacks up. Fortunately, the numbers work out for me at 35k soft costs so anything cheaper is just extra gravy 

Post: What is the average cost of drawings and permits?

Anthony ToPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

I used to build in SD and that is about right. As @Scott E. said, you could find a draftperson and then do all the legwork with the city yourself. You would probably save about $10k. But you will pay dearly in your time and frustration, trust me....and it will take twice as long.


 This idea crossed me mind! What are some of the biggest challenges if I decide to try and work with the city myself?

Post: What is the average cost of drawings and permits?

Anthony ToPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Scott E.:

I agree with Andrew. Seems a bit high but probably just due to your location. For something similar here in AZ would be ~$15k.

Do you have a general contractor lined up? They might know a draftsman who can knock this out for you for less. Especially if you already have the design work figured out on your own.


 Thanks for the response, yes I do have a contractor I work with and he said that the quote I got is expensive. He did recommend me a draftsperson that I’m going to reach out to. He thinks soft coats should be half of what I was quoted

Post: What is the average cost of drawings and permits?

Anthony ToPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 15

I'm in San Diego and looking to convert a three car garage into two 1-1 units. The total square footage is roughly 700 sq ft. There is a 2-1 apt above the garages already. The property is in North Park.

I spoke to ADU Geeks, a San Diego-based firm that specializes in ADU development, and they quoted me ~$36k for all soft costs for both units. Soft costs includes design, permit fees, school fees, water/sewer and title 24. So basically from nothing to permits in hand and ready to build will be $36k.

Does that seem reasonable? Any way for me to get that done cheaper? 

Hey Sai,

I’m also a software engineer and I do the same in San Diego. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions.


Anthony

Nice work. How are rents? How did you structure this deal with your partners?

Hi Thomas,

I’m also in the San Diego market, which neighborhoods are you looking in?


as far as getting cost estimates for rehab, I suggest finding a GC you like/trust and having them come with you in walkthroughs 

Post: San Diego Fix & Flip

Anthony ToPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 34
  • Votes 15

You already sold this? When did you acquire and what neighborhood? Can you share the specs of the property