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All Forum Posts by: Anthony Mirabile

Anthony Mirabile has started 3 posts and replied 12 times.

Post: 4-Plex BRRRR - Kettering/Oakwood OH

Anthony Mirabile
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 9

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) hard money loan investment in Kettering.

Purchase price: $142,000
Cash invested: $92,000

Cash to Close: $35,000
Renovations: $57,000

ARV: $210,000
70% LTV: $147,000
Owed to HML: $145,000 ($115,000 + $30,000 construction draw)

Rent: $800/mo
Free Cashflow: $250/unit ($1,000/mo)

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Great location on the edge of Oakwood in Kettering! The property was partially occupied at purchase (2/4) with value add opportunities to capture higher market rent (+200/unit/mo) or even AirBnB income! The two rented units minimized holding costs and will provide tenant transition options. This property came at a discount due to unfortunate circumstances and deferred maintenance. We took the opportunity to invest for the long-term and BRRRR this cash-flowing property right on the Oakwood border!

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Deal found on the MLS and negotiated through agent.

How did you finance this deal?

Deal financed through Hard Money Lender, 80% LTV at 12% plus a $30,000 construction draw. Down payment, closing, and remaining renovation costs funded through investor group.

How did you add value to the deal?

Planning to renovate all 4 units up to market rent with open floor plan, LVP flooring, upgraded kitchen and bathrooms. Plus some larger capital expenditures including replacing galvanized plumbing with PEX (plus individual unit meters) and minor roof repairs.

What was the outcome?

We are currently still in the renovation process, and anticipate not being able to pull all of our money out for a perfect BRRRR. But, we will have a higher quality property, more cashflow, and presumably less maintenance costs. Can't wait to update you all once we refinance!

Lessons learned? Challenges?

A Hard Money Lender will look at the property like an investor, which serves as an added underwriting check. Hard Money interest payments are expensive, so have a solid plan to get your renovation and refinance completed.

We are learning a lot of lessons on the renovation side, especially with the major plumbing work (galvanized to PEX). Have the conversations upfront with your contractors about permits and don't let coordination of licensed contractors derail your schedule.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Agent - Casey Hartman at Glasshouse Realty Group, she's helped us purchase our Dayton portfolio and is phenomenal!
HML - Darrin Carey - Dayton Capital Partners, he gives it to you straight and is a pleasure to work with!

Post: Skip trace + DNC Scrubbing

Anthony Mirabile
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 9

Originally posted by@Alex G.:

I tested 5-6 people on Fiverr who claimed to have access to Lexis Nexis, TLO and such skip tracing tools. Gave them a name to trace and checked the phone numbers they delivered against the numbers from my own access. All of them swore to me they had access to the real system. NONE of them had the phone numbers right, even the best rated sellers. I guess people who buy from them  don't have a way to check what they get against the real thing.

I did find a provider on UpWork who had the exact thing I wanted. For $1.50 per name they pulled the exact data I asked for. I like to collect quite a bit of data on owners (family members, alternative addresses, deceased info, BKs and judgements, etc.) when I skip trace. They had it all, and it was the same as in my own DB.

When you need 100+ of these or even a few hundreds, it could take hours and hours to DIY. So for $1.50 per name the service was certainly well worth the cost. However, there was no DNC data there, so this may have to be done separately.

Hi Alex!  Would you be willing to recommend/refer me to the specific provider on UpWork that you found and were happy with?  I'd be interested in trying out their services...sounds like a great deal!

Thanks!

Post: Buy & Hold :: University of Dayton Mega Block Property - Deal #2

Anthony Mirabile
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Michelle Dong:

@Anthony Mirabile

Congrats on this Purchase. I attended UD and graduated in 2018. Majority of the students I know from personal experience always try to find a house. This is going to be a gets investment for you!

Thanks Michelle! My wife is a UD grad ('13). If you know any UD students looking for housing, let me know! 

Post: Buy & Hold :: University of Dayton Mega Block Property - Deal #2

Anthony Mirabile
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Paul Amegatcher:
Originally posted by @Anthony Mirabile:

@Paul Amegatcher

Thanks Paul! What types of properties/investments are you involved with in the area?

My company owns 31 single-family rentals in the Northwest Dayton area. I looked at the UD property as well. I think your biggest hurdle moving forward will be to get it leased for Fall 2020 since COVID-19 quarantine has but a stop to a lot of stuff. As you stated, you may have to pivot in the interim to make it work as an investment property. How is marketing for fall tenants coming along?

Wow, congrats on a healthy portfolio! Are you looking to get into Multi-family? Agreed, the vacancy due to COVID-19 impacts is the biggest challenge with the property. Long-term the property will do great once school is back to "normal." 

As for filling the interim vacancies, it's been tough so far. The economic impact of the pandemic has likely reduced the prospective tenant pool. University of Dayton has already announced summer courses will be virtual, and most students that were looking for Fall 2020 housing are in a holding pattern until the more information is available. Got any suggestions?? 

Post: Buy & Hold :: University of Dayton Mega Block Property - Deal #2

Anthony Mirabile
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 9

@Paul Amegatcher

Thanks Paul! What types of properties/investments are you involved with in the area?

Post: Buy & Hold :: University of Dayton Mega Block Property - Deal #2

Anthony Mirabile
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 9

Investment Info:

Duplex buy & hold investment for University of Dayton (UD) students.

Purchase price: $225,000
Cash invested: $60,000

UD student rental (8 bed / 5 bath) located in the off-campus student housing Mega Block. No occupancy at the time of purchase due to a rehab, completed by the seller, after water damage from a pipe bursting. Expected high cashflow margin with equity upside long-term through potential University of Dayton acquisition.  

Conservatively estimating $1,500/mo in cashflow. Students get a discount over on-campus room & board and the property cashflows well!

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Originally when this property first hit the market, it went under contract very fast. Our team felt we had missed an opportunity, even though we just finished closing deal #1. When it came back on the market, our team sprung into action quickly and got it under contract the day after it re-listed! The cashflow and long-term potential for University of Dayton acquisition was too good to pass up!  

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Using an MLS search our outstanding agent (Casey Hartman) setup for us, along with Redfin and other listing sites. Casey, also helped negotiate $10k from the seller for minor maintenance and COVID-19 vacancy impacts.

How did you finance this deal?

Personal savings, a little bit of a stretch this time (worth the squeeze). Looking forward to exploring other financing options for the next deal. 

How did you add value to the deal?

Value-add for this property will be realized in the down-stream effects when it's filled with students who pass the house down to successors, yielding a sustainable long-term student rental model. This model was built through personal connections with current students.  The cherry on-top is the professional and conservative nature of the student group, which is expected to drive lower maintenance costs than your average college student!

What was the outcome?

Closing on a vacant property, after the "Stay at Home" order was issued for Ohio. Luckily, expenses are low and the negotiated cash at closing can carry the property for 4mo (start of next school year)!

COVID-19 is forcing some unique tenant solutions. Compared to the initial vision of filling the property with summer school students on short term leases and then annual leases for students at the beginning of the next school year. Our team is currently evaluating other options as a stop-gap (traveling nurses, small family, etc.). 

Long-term the value of this property will overshadow the minor bumps our team perseveres through due to COVID-19 impacts.  

Lessons learned? Challenges?

From contract to closing, this property was MUCH smoother than our team's first property! We cut our teeth early with a difficult closing on property #1, and it made closing this gem that much easier! However, we did have to contend with the COVID-19 Pandemic...

Once under contract and observing the COVID-19 impacts unfold, our team considered finding a way to mitigate the property vacancy as a contingency to continue with closing. The result was $10k at closing from the seller, which will cover minor maintenance and expenses until the next school year (Aug 2020). The seller was incentivized to sell given the uncertain increasing impacts of the COVID-19 Pandemic, and the property still made sense as a long-term cash flowing asset with an upside for university acquisition. A win-win! 

Consider the seller's position when negotiating terms, it may unlock some possibilities that lead to a beneficial scenario for both parties. 

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Casey Hartman (Glasshouse Realty, Dayton, OH) is our spectacular agent! We could NOT have closed this deal without her! She navigates deals with professionalism and poise. Her understanding of the market and investor considerations puts her in the elite agent class. Can't wait to close more deals with Casey! 

Paul Sushereba (NFM Lending, Beavercreek, OH) is an incredible lender with the right expertise on the mortagage/lending process. He guided the entire team through closing during COVID-19! 

Closing during COVID-19 would not have been so smooth without Casey and Paul!

Post: 4-Plex BRRRR Property in Kettering, OH - First Deal!

Anthony Mirabile
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Paul Amegatcher:

@Anthony Mirabile

$60k reno is a lot for 2 units that are 775sqft each. I would get multiple bids before I commit to the renovation budget. 

Paul, sorry for the confusion...poorly worded on my part!
In my original post I was trying to say that I'm expecting a total forced appreciation of $60,000-$90,000 on the property as a result of a combination of: getting the property management situation resolved, reno work completed, and rents increased.

Totally agree, $60k would be way too much for this property haha thanks for the sanity check!
My initial reno budget prediction when I did my due diligence was $10,000-$15,000 per unit, which jives pretty well with the first quote that came in at $12,000.  Definitely going to get a few more bids, as the current tenant situation gives me a little time before the renos are possible.

Post: 4-Plex BRRRR Property in Kettering, OH - First Deal!

Anthony Mirabile
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Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 9

@Anthony Mirabile

Sorry for the double reply 🤦‍♂️.

Post: 4-Plex BRRRR Property in Kettering, OH - First Deal!

Anthony Mirabile
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 9

@Jeremy Hackenberg

Paul does take out of state investors! I’m actually out in California as proof! He has a wealth of knowledge and leads his team effectively to get the deal to closing. I’m already using him for another deal currently.

Post: 4-Plex BRRRR Property in Kettering, OH - First Deal!

Anthony Mirabile
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Dave DeMarinis:

Congratulations Anthony on starting your journey. What are the rents and unit configurations? I think you should look very closely at your numbers. A 4 unit is generally going to appraise off comps, not NOI unfortunately. I just want to make sure you don't end up over market with purchase price plus renovation (that is a heavy renovation budget). DM if you want to talk more details.

Hi Dave! Thanks for the congratulations and the considerations - great point! Definitely tracking that appraising via NOI is more of a commercial RE thing, I guess mostly using that more for internal metrics more than estimating ARV. I did spend time looking at comps as well as the primary gauge of what can be expected for ARV.

All 4 units are 775sqft 2bed/1bath, #1 and #2 are the ones with plans to reno once the leases are up and are currently leased at $550/mo through 31 Aug 2020, and $600/mo through 30 Nov 2020, respectively.
Units #3 and #4 were previously reno'd prior to purchase (within the past 5-6 years, both very similar quality).  One of the hiccups of this deal was only just finding out (last week via the tenant) that Unit #3 is moving out tomorrow, so it's listed that at $800/mo and have already gotten a number of promising applicants.  Unit #4 is currently leased at $650/mo through 31 Jul 2020, at which time the plan is to increase rent to market rates.
Re: reno budget, also trying to be a bit pessimistic since it's my first as well, ideally looking to stay below that, but will know more once the actual quotes come back - agreed on making sure it makes sense with purchase+reno<ARV!