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All Forum Posts by: Anthony King

Anthony King has started 12 posts and replied 226 times.

Post: New real estate investors and random questions

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@Da'Michael Horne IMO - You need to just drop the whole idea of setting up LLC's at this stage. I agree that you have one too many LLC's already. Just focus on buying a 1-4 unit property using a conventional mortgage and when you purchase insurance for the property include a $1,000,000 umbrella policy. It's that simple. If you have $60k toward DP, closing, and reserves, the most home you can afford right now is about a $150-$250k, 1-4 unit. This also depends heavily on your DTI, so let's hope you're below 15-20%. You're putting the cart before the horse talking about LLC's right now.

If you have an unrelated partner that you want to make this first purchase with, then MAYBE, you should consider an LLC, or have a lawyer draw up a simple contract defining your business partnership between the two of you. Lenders will not even finance your newly established LLC with no income or assets so the only thing you can do is get a mortgage in your personal name with the amount of cash you currently have.

Bottom line - mortgage in your name, umbrella policy, forget the LLC.

Post: How prepared did you feel going into your first deal?

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A "seller's disclosure" isn't necessarily a full disclosure of everything wrong with the property, tenants, etc. It is actually a legal document filled out by the seller and if any known issues exist, or have existed in the past, they must be disclosed to prospective buyers. If there was a roof leak that destroyed the living room, they can't just patch and paint the ceiling and then a month after your purchase the ceiling caves in again. If they were found to have lied on the disclosure document they can face legal consequences. In some states it is required.

Originally posted by @Stephanie Ro:

@Anthony King I'll definitely need a patient real estate agent! How do you get full disclosure from the seller BTW?

Post: How prepared did you feel going into your first deal?

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It all just came together as the process went along from the first inquiry I made. I am investing out of state so I knew I would need all of that. An investor friendy realtor should have multiple contacts they can set you up with.

Originally posted by @Blake Ramsey:

@Anthony King Thanks for the reply Anthony! When putting together your core 4, do you start doing that before you did your deal or as you progressed and did more deals?

Post: Vacation home loan is 10% down still available

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Firstbank mortgage. They were in Gulf Shores, Alabama though.

Originally posted by @Steve Armstrong:

I would like to know more about that lender as well.

Post: How prepared did you feel going into your first deal?

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@Blake Ramsey You'll never be completely ready, all you can be is prepared. It's an ever-changing game and eachnsotuation is completely unique. You're dealing with people, not just an asset, which, in and of itself is completely unique. Just make sure you have a solid "core 4" that you trust and are looking out for you.

First I found an awesome realtor who put up with all of my rookie questions, mistakes, and ignorance. I found him by just inquiring on a fourplex on zillow and while I didn't buy that one, he helped me buy two duplexes and two triplexes just last year. He set me up with a few solid lenders, an awesome insurance agent, a good property manager, and a reliable contractor. Just making that first inquiry on zillow asking for a rent roll, seller disclosure and owner expenses turned out to be the push I needed to make the jump from analysis paralysis to making my first investment purchase (I already had 2 single family homes I lived in then rented out after moving). It snowballed after that and I now have 13 doors.

JUST JUMP!!!

Post: DCSR Loan and forms of Financing

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That does help. The input provided by everyone above provides a better understanding for sure. I guess the answer is that you really don't know which lender offers what product unless you ask. I was kind of hoping you could go to their website or google "DSCR Lenders in XX market" and narrow them down that way.

Originally posted by @David M.:

@Anthony King

I was rereading some of this post, including yours regarding distinguishing a DSCR lender from a commercial lender.

I think part of the confusion is terminology (of course).  "Commercial" as it applies to lending to me is a "catch-all" phrase.  Its basically NOT a 'conforming' residential loan.  A "conforming" loan (which pretty much by definition is owner-occupied residential) is a loan that 'conforms' to the Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac (i.e. the gov't) requirements/guidelines.  If a lender originates a loan according to these rules, they can resell the Note to the the various quasi-govt agencies to maintain their liquidity.  This is one way the US Gov't supports homeownership.

If you've been around for bit, you might recall a "jumbo" loan product.  This is just a loan that is nonconforming because the amount exceeds the limits imposed by the Gov't.  Its not really a "commercial" product as I believe most "residential" lenders will originate it if somebody is buying an expensive property.  Its "non conforming."  

Once you are getting a "non conforming" loan, then there isn't a 'rulebook' set by Big Brother.  The lenders/the markets set their own.  Of course, there is some similarity to the rules for retail practicality and business practicality (I'm pretty sure some of these are still resold as their is still a secondary market for these notes).

Does that help?

Post: DCSR Loan and forms of Financing

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@Josh Calcanis I've only used conventional Fannie/Freddie loans on my small multifamilies, but I'm almost maxed out with those. Forgive my ignorance, but how do you distinguish a DSCR lender from a commercial lender? What tells you a lender is DSCR?

Post: Offer accepted on 1 property while under contract for another??

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@Jared Smith I closed on one conventional mortgage (duplex) with "Lender A" while I was working toward closing on two other properties (2 triplexes) with "Lender B" in Oct/Nov. Just let both lenders know what you're doing.

Post: First MF under contract! Commercial lending help please

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Well then, I would take that 60 day closing and turn it into 10 before they figure out their mistake. Sounds like a great deal.

Originally posted by @Alice Huang:
Originally posted by @Anthony King:

@Alice Huang Are you sure about those numbers? You can get it for for $675k, put $20k into one unit, and all of a sudden it's worth $950k? And are you sure you can raise your rents from $860/unit to $1285/unit, a 35% increase without doing anything to those units? What class neighborhood is this? Maybe I'm wrong, but the seller's agent is either incompetent, or you need to double check your numbers.

 Hello Anthony!

We're still checking the numbers, as it's a commercial building, our lenders told us they lend based on market rent.  The rent hasn't changed since 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2018, 2018 and 2019.  

The neighbourhood is A class, and the building itself is B- at best right now.  C is likely, as is.  

There is no agent on the purchase.  My business partner found then lovely elderly couple, who are both in their 80's, via wholesale.  

Post: First MF under contract! Commercial lending help please

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@Alice Huang Are you sure about those numbers? You can get it for for $675k, put $20k into one unit, and all of a sudden it's worth $950k? And are you sure you can raise your rents from $860/unit to $1285/unit, a 35% increase without doing anything to those units? What class neighborhood is this? Maybe I'm wrong, but the seller's agent is either incompetent, or you need to double check your numbers.