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All Forum Posts by: Adam Odom

Adam Odom has started 9 posts and replied 125 times.

Quote from @Alan F.:

Jobs have; PTO, medical insurance, Company matched 401k's, structure etc. Lending favors w2 employment.

Self employed have; Non of the above.


 Came here to say this exactly - insurance alone is a huge expense most don't think about until they have to pay it outright. And company match on 401k is free money. 

Post: Requesting to book directly outside apps?

Adam OdomPosted
  • Columbia, SC
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Quote from @Lauren Kormylo:

It’s a well known scam. The scam is they send a cashier’s or certified check for 6k by mistake, then ask you to send them the 2K extra back. After you do, you find out their check is counterfeit, and you’ve been scammed out of 2k.  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpayment_scam


 As a banker, this is one of the biggest ones we see too. People assume certified checks are always legitimate but with such sophisticated printers now certified checks are one of the most counterfeited items out there.

Post: Can anyone recommend someone to help with a 1031 exchange?

Adam OdomPosted
  • Columbia, SC
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Quote from @Laura Krukowski:

I am in Upstate, NY. Looking for someone to help with a 1031 Exchange....Thanks!

 I too used @Dave Foster - just finished up my first part of the exchange yesterday. Very smooth process.

Post: General Contractors refusing to quote without them buying materials

Adam OdomPosted
  • Columbia, SC
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Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Adam Odom:

So I don't think it's black and white either - I did new windows in our primary home and our contractor measured and ordered the windows and then I called the supply house and gave them my card. He didn't want to front the money himself and I was happy to get the points. So he was in control from start to finish but we used our cash to buy everything (including flashing/caulk/other things he knew were needed). I've also given a contractor my Lowes card (we have known him forever and I fully trust him) for a week so he can buy whatever he needs to get the job done. I've also used guys and just written them a check for draws along the way but never purchased material. There's never a one size fits all for real estate/investing.


Speaking specific to this, because I owned a window remodeling and distribution company. 

When I would put in a window order, it was at the manufacturing plant itself, not Home Depot, not Lowes. If your materials are coming from H.D. or Lowes, your doing it wrong. And if that's where your "GC" shops, he's NOT a GC, he's an installer with a GC license. Very big difference. 

A "REAL" GC, has vendor account's, manufacture account's, and negotiated product discounts based on volume. You can't make those payments, literally, it's not allowed. 

When I went to buy a furnace, it was closed to the public. It required licenses to buy there, and vendor account, and EIN. Cabinets, same thing, I was direct with manufacturer. Paint, I bought from BEAR, no not buying BEAR paint at H.D. I bought through BEAR itself and H.D. serviced out account, my pricing was negotiated and specific to myself. 

I'm not special in this regard, this is the standard of how it's done for professional GC's. NON-professional GC's get their stuff at H.D., Menards, Lowes's etc.. 

And yes, I did get some things at H.D. but even then, I had a corporate account, and received corporate pricing that came from corporate office. Again, volume based and negotiated discount. Some were minimal, 3-7%, some as much as 68%. I only saw 68% once, maybe was a type but I took it! 

I spent literally millions per year, every year on materials. That's purchasing power, that leverages those accounts and discounts. Yes, we mark-up materials, but on our discount, not retail. And, we handle everything, are liable for everything.    Sending someone to H.D. or Lowes with you card will never compete with what we can get, at the price we can get it. Nor will the product be the same.     For example, when I buy Dewalt tools, they look like what you can get off the shelf, but there not, the gut's are different. I have metal drives vs plastic, the wrapper looks the same but content is whole different item. Same goes for everything, tools, windows, flooring etc.. 

Again, context, nothing is black and white. My contractor used my Lowes card for a roughly $2,000 renovation on a currently owned rental. Not a million dollar addition, not a new build. To say a contractor isn't legit because he gets stuff at Lowes is a little exaggerated.

Post: General Contractors refusing to quote without them buying materials

Adam OdomPosted
  • Columbia, SC
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So I don't think it's black and white either - I did new windows in our primary home and our contractor measured and ordered the windows and then I called the supply house and gave them my card. He didn't want to front the money himself and I was happy to get the points. So he was in control from start to finish but we used our cash to buy everything (including flashing/caulk/other things he knew were needed). I've also given a contractor my Lowes card (we have known him forever and I fully trust him) for a week so he can buy whatever he needs to get the job done. I've also used guys and just written them a check for draws along the way but never purchased material. There's never a one size fits all for real estate/investing.

Quote from @Kyler J Sloan:

So, a guest who booked my place but did not show up apparently filed a credit card dispute to get their money back, and I am now discovering that the financial institution that VRBO has partnered with is going to withdraw this money directly out of my account with no due diligence and give it back to the guest. I reached out to them, and I have no recourse to stop this.

Has anyone else had this happen? 

I am fairly certain I am going to remove my listings off of VRBO after this. 


 So this happened to me once - they actually did stay but damaged the unit and were billed for damages on her card. She disputed it and the credit card company said because even though the lease addressed everything, she didn't INITIAL every page and they refunded her. I sent her a letter directly and told her I would file a civil suit against her if she didn't pay and sure enough she did. 

Post: Questions about buying RE with all cash

Adam OdomPosted
  • Columbia, SC
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Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Kerry Noble Jr:

use the cash to get a better deal because you can close fast etc.....then put the long term financing on the property


FAKE NEWS!!!!

This is rapidly becoming my #1 ANNOUANCE myth in real estate, the myth that "oh-oh-ohhh tell someone your going to pay all cash and they will hit the floor, praise your existence, and let you buy it for tens of thousands less than everyone else" it's simply NOT true. 

Ok, let me ask you this, at closing, when selling to an FHA buyer, what does seller get?

At closing, for a VA buyer, what does seller get?

CASH!!!! It's ALL cash! Every time ALL THE TIME at closing, it's ALL CASH. 

Terms matter, price matters, but HOW it turns into cash at closing nobody with half a brain cares, it's ALL cash at closing. FHA does not pay in vouchers for Subway, VA does not pay in Kohls Cash....

See, back in the day when WE (notice the WE, not them or others) made the terms "cash buyer" popularly known, it was MORE a reference to our TERMS than our payment action. When we made "ALL CASH OFFER" it was referring to the as-is, where-is, NO inspection, zero terms DONE-deal here's your offer AND I pay closing, offer. Or for short, all-cash-offer. 

Now, people have twisted it to thinking just offer to pay in cash and people will be so wowed they will hand a massive discount. That's just not how it works. 

ALL offers are cash offers at closing. 


Yeah a buyer with FHA is much less attractive than a cash buyer so you definitely can't use that as an example. Too many requirements for the loan not to mention if the appraisal comes in low it sticks to the property. As a seller I've had someone with FHA do an over market offer, you know why? They won't have to pay it if it doesn't appraise! I took the cash offer for slightly less and don't regret it for a second.

Post: Estimated cost for easement/road access

Adam OdomPosted
  • Columbia, SC
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Good idea - I'll start there. Thanks @Kenny Smith

Post: Estimated cost for easement/road access

Adam OdomPosted
  • Columbia, SC
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I have a land locked property I got at tax sale a few years ago and have made little success in getting in contact with adjacent owners for access. If I do have to go to court to get access granted, does anyone have a ballpark how much I'd have to pay for that access? I know I'll have attorney costs as well so I'd love to get an idea of how much the actual easement would cost after going through the process. For context, there is a pretty simple access point from property line of one of two owners I can get easement from and it's roughly 200-300 feet to get to my property. This is located in rural Richland Co SC.

Post: Unethical lending Practice

Adam OdomPosted
  • Columbia, SC
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Quote from @David M.:

@Adam Odom

Unless something has changed, the "buyer's remorse" does specifically to purchases.  That's the whole point --- basically, people think or were "swindled" into signing when they didn't want to because of last minute changes to mortgage rate or wasn't declared properly.  Should be a Federal law / consumer protection I've been told at many closings.  Maybe it is a State thing...  Its even one of the disclosures that buyers sign during the closing...


 I've honestly never heard of it - must not apply in SC. Very interesting though - wires go out the same day a deal is closed here. Do they hold funding in NJ? I don't see how they could really enforce it especially if the seller was using the money to purchase their own new home. Seems like it would be chaos trying to claw back.