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All Forum Posts by: Andy Sabo

Andy Sabo has started 2 posts and replied 2 times.

Post: The Lure of Hard Money

Andy SaboPosted
  • Honolulu, HI
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One of my favorite movies is Easy Money with Rodney Dangerfield and Joe Pesci. Rodney’s character made a deal to give up all of his vices to inherit his mother-in-law’s fortune. It turned out to be harder than he imagined.

There is nothing “easy” about obtaining a Hard Money loan from a private lender. It is a proposition based on risk. The lender assumes the risk of repayment of a highly leveraged loan, the borrower assumes risk of paying up-front fees to someone who will not perform, and the brokers assume the risk of getting squeezed out of the deal. Hard money fees can be as high as 10 points with interest rates above 12% and upwards of 20%.

Real Estate Investors
As a private lender, I am hesitant to work with people who call themselves “real estate investors.” You may be the next Donald Trump, but if you have no cash in the deal, it’s a waste of time for everyone. Investors will always avoid the term 100% financing. When you ask the investor how much he/she is putting down, they respond like a politician at a Senate hearing. Calling yourself an investor is another way of saying I don’t need realtors and I don’t have a down payment. News flash: No one lends 100% on commercial real estate. Stop here if you are a “real estate investor,” to continue with this article, you need 35% down.

Hard Money Lenders
Some people use the terms private lender and hard money lender interchangeably. Private lenders come in all flavors and many of them have lending requirements similar to banks. They may be wealthy individuals or groups that aggregate investors and leverage hedge funds. Many of them are brokers with access to direct funds from various sources. Both lend on hard assets, but the difference is that hard money lenders do not scrutinize the borrower as much as the property, whereas most private lenders are looking for strong borrowers. Hard money lenders charge outrageous fees with as much as 10-12 points, high interest rates, and leave the borrower guessing for weeks as the “lender” passes the loan around to different brokers. Conversely, most private lenders charge institutional rate and will charge 1-3 points, depending on how many brokers are involved. Private lenders also avoid broker chains which put a load on the lending parameters and equity structure.

Don’t Fall for the Lure of Hard Money
So the money is easy to come by for “real estate investors,” as long as the property has good upside, right? Wrong! Even the hard money guys need the borrower to have skin in the game. It is just common sense; if it were easy, everyone would be doing it. Isn’t that what they told you at the real estate investor seminar (sic)?

You will see advertisements all over the internet by hard money lenders who say they will do 100% financing. Look out for email correspondence where a lender promises they are fast, entrepreneurial, aggressive on LTV, or low cash tolerant. These phrases are all red flags indicating a likely scam. These guys will demand an up-front fee and you will never hear from them again.

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The Perfect Match
By now you know that I am an Agent representing Private Lenders for Commercial Real Estate. Those of us in this business specialize in certain types of loans, based on the offerings of our Lending Groups. One of the problems in this industry is that the lending groups are looking for the perfect match.

This article may seem self-deprecating as I try to give a realistic view of Private Lending Groups for Commercial Real Estate. Many agents contact me with loan requests that were turned down by their lender. Instead of walking away, they try to find someone who can solve their problem. We all do this because we want to help our clients. That should be a good thing, but it is frowned upon by the Lending Groups.

The Modern Marketing Concept
In the 1900s, marketing meant identifying strategies and tactics for simply selling more products and services with little regard for what customers really wanted. That changed in the 1950s when competition increased. The modern marketing concept suggests first knowing the customer and what they want before developing and marketing products and services.
Private Lending Groups tell the world they have Billions to lend but make it almost impossible for most borrowers to meet their criteria. They don’t tell you what the product is, because each deal is evaluated on its own merit. It seems that Private Lending for CRE is an industry that defies modern marketing concepts.

Fear of Competition
Private Lenders do not advertise their product, rates, terms, lending criteria, or maximums. They try to stay competitive by limiting information that may be leaked to their competitors. Instead, they rely on independent agents to try to differentiate their product by offering additional services. Communication is limited and there are no written agreements, other than the NCNDA. An agent submits a loan to the lender and prays that the lender will accept the deal.

The Lender – Agent Relationship
Try to imagine working in an industry where you work 10-12 hours a day, 7 days a week, and don’t get paid for months at a time. You really don’t know when you will get your next paycheck. In many cases the agent pays for this privilege! The agent submits deal after deal to a lender, until he gets frustrated and takes his deals elsewhere. The borrower gets frustrated and takes his deals to another agent. The Lender may recognize the deal as it was submitted by another agent, so it is immediately denied. The fact is Private Lending Agents have no allegiance to the lenders they represent.

The Big Taboo – Loan Shopping
Private Lending Groups don’t care how much time or effort the agent has put into bringing them business. If they make you an offer, you better accept it. Don’t even think of questioning the rates, terms, or commissions. They will label you as a loan shopper. I get nervous even thinking about this term.

Loan-shoppers are time-wasters. If the lender is just going to review the executive summary, what time have they invested? If they are interested and want to spend time on the package, then there should be a commitment from the buyer and the broker to work exclusively with the lender.

The Problem
Many of the people who contact me are looking for equity lending on real estate construction or multifamily funding. Many deals are difficult to fund and require an additional cash commitment to make it work. So, I have a discussion with the borrower and get them to put more cash into the deal.

The problem is when I send a deal to my lending group and find out that the lending group has already seen and rejected the deal because another broker submitted the request at a lower LTV. The lender will not look at the deal a second time because they have already reviewed the project and rejected it. It doesn’t matter if the borrower’s cash position has improved.

The Solution
When I believe that a lending group may not approve a loan request, I am prepared to shop the loan. The difference is I do it serially, waiting for my lender to reject the request. Then I fix the problem and prepare a cover letter for the next lender explaining how the borrower has improved his/her position.

Virtually all Private Lenders in Commercial Real Estate will lend 65% LTV to purchase or refinance apartments, office buildings, or other income generating properties. How do they differentiate themselves? They don’t. That is why I continue to establish relationships with new lenders to expand my offering to help investors make money. Offering different loan types, including construction, hotels, shopping centers, senior living, NNN, and other categories is a way to differentiate myself from the rest of the pack.