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All Forum Posts by: Andrew Thomas

Andrew Thomas has started 1 posts and replied 6 times.

Post: Starting out! Would love some advice!

Andrew ThomasPosted
  • Realtor
  • Rochester NY
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 1
Quote from @Preston Garcia:
Quote from @Andrew Thomas:

Hello everyone!

I’m an 18 year old real estate agent also in college as a business major. And I have a few questions.

1. What are some work arounds to getting a mortgage if I do not have 2 years proof of income?

2. What is the best calculator or property analysis system that I could use to analyze properties?

3. Where can I get creative to find the cash for a down payment that might be out of my price range?

And a few questions I have as a real estate agent.

1. Is there anyone who is or started out as an 18 year and could share some insight on how they got started?

2. What type of marketing should I get into to get the best result?

3. How do I become a trusted real estate agent at my age?

If I could get some help that would be great! I’m also located in Rochester New York. A growing market and a very promising area!


 Hey, I'm a local agent over here in Rochester, NY too. Feel free to reach out to me and connect!

Awesome! How can we connect?

Post: Starting out! Would love some advice!

Andrew ThomasPosted
  • Realtor
  • Rochester NY
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 1
Quote from @Travis Timmons:

Success usually requires hard work, talent, and luck. Start with talent if you are looking for a place to work your a$$ off. If you are like I was, the answer to that "What are you good at?" question at 18 is probably not much. You just don't have the requisite experience or skill set yet. 

That means you're probably going to try a lot of stuff and throw sheer effort at it. There are the low to $0 compensation up front gigs like being an agent that have high income potential down the road vs. the immediate pay off gig like a job paying $16/hour. I'd suggest trying both. Get a job working at a bar a few nights a week, buy a pressure washer and go door knocking to pressure wash driveways and decks (for example, does not have to be that), and be an agent that hustles, works open houses, goes to RE meetups, networks like crazy, and learns a lot. 

And if that sounds like a lot while you are in college, you are correct. It's okay if you punt on all of that until you graduate. If you want an unusual, "live like no one else" life, you're going to have to take a 2-5 year period and make some serious sacrifices. It does not have to be 18-22. Mine was 23-28. 

Love this response! Thank you and I have had my fair share of $16/hour jobs, I’ve worked at a brewery, worked at a Christmas tree farm, worked at a golf course, and worked at a CNC shop. I used to wash cars in the summer, paint fences and mow lawns. I got really good at all these things and found the most efficient way to do all these things with hard work. The grind will be there and I just have to be patient. Thank you! 

Post: Starting out! Would love some advice!

Andrew ThomasPosted
  • Realtor
  • Rochester NY
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 1
Quote from @Dustin Tucker:
Quote from @Andrew Thomas:
Quote from @Dustin Tucker:

@Andrew Thomas

Sorry you I was shift my focus from purchasing my personal residence to purchasing my first investment property as a realtor you should have access to a program called realist you can easily go in there and search for out-of-state or out of County owners one of the best ways to Market is handwritten envelopes it is almost a guaranteed open versus any other kind of marketing realist has so much information how long people have owned the property with their mortgages Etc I would also try to find as many wholesalers as possible and sign up for their list and look at how they are packaging their properties you will need to go and join some investment clubs a national Club you could potentially join is called Lifestyles Unlimited I'm sure the information they teach is also available on Bigger Pockets at the end of the day if you have a great deal you will always be able to find an investor for it


 Thank you for the response! Is there any way you could make the first part more clear? And also make it more clear why I would be looking on realist for how long people have had mortgages? 


 Sorry, Unfortunately Voice to Text didn't work.

First Point, is as a society we look at home ownership the wrong way, a personal residence is a liability vs buying investment property which is an asset.  The difference between the 2 is a liability costs you money each month vs an asset makes you money each month.


2nd Point, As a realtory, you goal should be to be a listing agent, I don't think you have a had the chance to host an open house and try to attract clients as a realtor, you should at least try it a couple times, but at the end of the day hosting an open house to find clients is not the tool it used to be.  So back to the point, as a realtor, you want to be a "Seller's Agent", your question is how do you do this? First I have to ask a simple question, which is who is more likely to sell their house, a person living in their primary residence or a person not living in their primary residence?  The answer is fairly obvious, and that is the person who is not living in their primary residence.  So now that you understand what type of owner you are looking for you can go to realist and use the Non-Owner Occupied search feature, and find unlimited leads for marketing.  

Third, How to Market.

I would use one or a combination of these 3.

1. Hand Addressed Envelopes to your lead list, create a flyer about either listing their house, or even purchasing their property, the Hand Addressed envelope guarantees that your message will get read.

2. Skip Tracing, you can use Whitepages.com or any number of other sites to look up the owner's info and you can call them on the phone.

3. If the owner lives in town, you could even go knock on their door, I find this to be extremely successful when you are going after foreclosed properties.


As to your 1st post, you might want to look at city data for growing markets, It looks like Rochester lost population last year, vs if you look at sunbelt cities like, Houston, DFW, Austin, Miami, Orlando, Tampa, these cities saw at a minimum 1% population increase.

Awesome! Thank you so much for your help!

Post: Starting out! Would love some advice!

Andrew ThomasPosted
  • Realtor
  • Rochester NY
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 1
Quote from @Dustin Tucker:

@Andrew Thomas

Sorry you I was shift my focus from purchasing my personal residence to purchasing my first investment property as a realtor you should have access to a program called realist you can easily go in there and search for out-of-state or out of County owners one of the best ways to Market is handwritten envelopes it is almost a guaranteed open versus any other kind of marketing realist has so much information how long people have owned the property with their mortgages Etc I would also try to find as many wholesalers as possible and sign up for their list and look at how they are packaging their properties you will need to go and join some investment clubs a national Club you could potentially join is called Lifestyles Unlimited I'm sure the information they teach is also available on Bigger Pockets at the end of the day if you have a great deal you will always be able to find an investor for it


 Thank you for the response! Is there any way you could make the first part more clear? And also make it more clear why I would be looking on realist for how long people have had mortgages? 

Post: Starting out! Would love some advice!

Andrew ThomasPosted
  • Realtor
  • Rochester NY
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 1

Thank you so much for the response! I get told the word “Patience” everyday and it becomes more and more prevalent every time I hear it. 

Do you have any ideas on how I can work my a$$ off? I feel like the hardest part is finding what to work on and the easy part is to do the work. 

Post: Starting out! Would love some advice!

Andrew ThomasPosted
  • Realtor
  • Rochester NY
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 1

Hello everyone!

I’m an 18 year old real estate agent also in college as a business major. And I have a few questions.

1. What are some work arounds to getting a mortgage if I do not have 2 years proof of income?

2. What is the best calculator or property analysis system that I could use to analyze properties?

3. Where can I get creative to find the cash for a down payment that might be out of my price range?

And a few questions I have as a real estate agent.

1. Is there anyone who is or started out as an 18 year and could share some insight on how they got started?

2. What type of marketing should I get into to get the best result?

3. How do I become a trusted real estate agent at my age?

If I could get some help that would be great! I’m also located in Rochester New York. A growing market and a very promising area!