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All Forum Posts by: Andrew McGuire

Andrew McGuire has started 20 posts and replied 203 times.

Post: Is This the Beginning Of the End For Airbnb??

Andrew McGuire
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chandler, AZ
  • Posts 206
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Quote from @Robin Simon:

No, this is youtube clickbait nonsense


 Agree, this piece is a response to the tweet that actually started a lot of this nonsense. 

Post: Is This the Beginning Of the End For Airbnb??

Andrew McGuire
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chandler, AZ
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Quote from @Account Closed:

According to ASU Cromford report, every single STR in the valley would have to go on the market to relieve the shortage by a fraction. It wouldn't be nearly enough to get into a balanced market.

However, there are 10,000 new homes being built in Apache Junction. It takes a while for those to go online. That won't take care of the problem but at least builders are seeing the opportunity.

The next challenge is turning dirt into water to supply all the new houses. How about we divert the Columbia river from Washington/Oregon to the southwest instead of them just allowing it to flow into the ocean?


 Good points, We will take there water for AJ and other developments if they are going to dump it!! Hearing a lot about dev out in that area. 

Post: Is This the Beginning Of the End For Airbnb??

Andrew McGuire
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chandler, AZ
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"The Airbnb Collapse I Real, Revenues are down nearly 50% in cities like Phoenix and Austin. Watch out for a wave of forced Selling from AirBnb Owners later this year in areas hit hardest by the revenue collapse.”

That is a tweet by Nick Gerli tweeted in June and honestly there is a lot of misrepresentation in this data. Just the title that revenues are down in cities like Phoenix and Austin are not true at all

If you're like me you took part in the Airbnb Boom which began during the onset of covid and continued over the last few years. Seizing the opportunity to buy real estate in wildly appreciating markets and make a nice monthly cashflow return by listing your property on Airbnb. Now for most of us this was cruising along nicely until this summer here in 2023. For me personally It has seemed like tougher than any other time to keep my listings fully occupied and we've had to lower my rates some to accomplish that. In addition to that seems like our guest have been more demanding than ever. We've Received a few unfair ratings which Airbnb refused to do anything about. There seems to be something in the air so I decided to take a closer look and see what's really going on

Let's start off by taking a look at and breaking down this tweet by Nick Gerli, I'm going to break down what he is actually showing which is not Revenue. "In the tweet it shows Phoenix and its down 47.2% drop, stating that revenue in this chart is down nearly 50% is a lie because that chart is actually showing is revenue per available listing or rental.

The way this #, REVPal is calculated is taking the total market revenue on a given month or give year. In this case they are looking at month over month from May of 2022 through May 2023. So your taking the total market revenue and dividing it by the # of active rentals and that give you the revenue per active listing. The reason this is misleading is because when you look at the total market revenue for Phoenix

Using AirDNA or what I like to use, Pricelabs, In May of 2022 you will get $10.9M of total market revenue for houses listed on Airbnb. If you look at the same set of listings for May of 2023 you get $16.8M which is almost a 50% increase. Completely opposite of what he is suggesting that revenue is down by 50%, it is actually up by 50%.

So revenue for the market it up but that only looks at one part of the story. We also have to look at the number of listings available to get our supply. In May of 2022 there were just about 7K active Airbnb listings on the market. In May of 23' that number has increased by a decent amount, there Is about 9500 active listings. We are seeing that start to trend down with numbers of listings decreasing in q2 2023 to Q3 2023/

I attribute this to not as many new airbnb host getting in while interest rates are so high, It makes the numbers harder to work. At the same time you have some tired host starting to sell off or invest in other types of rentals.

So there are a couple of different factors that have led to such a large decrease in the RevPal #. We talked about supply and the overall number of listings in the market but you also have many believing that we have come to an end of to the travel boom that was onset by the start of covid. Many travelers were looking for places that were not as restrictive to the lockdowns at the onset of Covid, Arizona being one of the places travelers from near and far liked to travel to. Like any industry people see that you are making money and they rush in and it increases the supply. Some of those investors will realize that its not as lucrative as it once was. They will sell off and it will start the cycle over again.

Once some of the supply has exited the market my prediction is that RevPal will go back up. Does this mean you can't make money in Airbnb as a host in Phoenix? Not at all, myself and my friends are still operating Listings that are making money. It’s just not as lucrative as it was in the crazy pandemic time of 2020 and 2021. The other thing to keep in mind is what is going to happen with demand over the next few years. Everything I've seen from sources and blogs that Air DNA and PriceLabs put out is that demand has leveled off but they are still seeing modest increases and expect that trend to continue in the next 12 months

So going back to this Tweet by Nick, what I think he is getting to is that there is going to be a major sell off from Airbnb host that can no longer afford to pay their mortgage. This wave is going to flood the market with inventory and with the increased supply the Real Estate market will crash. Well we have a major shortage of inventory right now so if there we a sell off it would be welcomed because we are sitting barely over a month of supply Its not going to be enough to crash the market.

So Should you get into Airbnb? I think as of right now it would be wise to account for all the competition that has entered the market More than ever make sure you have the amenities, what part of town are you in. Are you buy local attractions, do you have a pool that will be desired in summer? What other uniqueness and amenities does your Airbnb offer compared to the competitors. You used to be able to get away with a run of the mill listing but you can't any more. Make your place stand out and you will be able to easily achieve the revenue you need monthly. To wait for the rents to increase and your property to appreciate with this markets pent up demand.

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Post: Working W2 Job for 16 Years Vs 4 Years RE Investing....The Aha Moment

Andrew McGuire
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chandler, AZ
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Quote from @Dona Cardenas:

Andrew, can the wife of a deceased veteran use these benefits?


HI Dona, not avoiding question but this does depend. Here is a link from VA.Gov that covers.

https://www.va.gov/housing-assistance/home-loans/surviving-spouse/

BP won't let me paste link so typed it out. 

Post: Working W2 Job for 16 Years Vs 4 Years RE Investing....The Aha Moment

Andrew McGuire
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  • Chandler, AZ
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@Ryan David Dodd, I love that idea of house hacking 100% with VA loan and can absolutley do that with a 4U. The great thing is that with VA loans you can use 100% of the lease amount to wipe out your DTI of loan on the property, as opposed to conventional or FHA can use 75% I believe. You can also have multiple outstanding VA loans, its more of a math equation. Essentially take 25% of your first VA loan, then subtract that from 181K if you are in a conforming loan county which 98% of counties are. Whatever is left multiply by 4 and that is the amount you can finance on the next property using 100% VA loan. If you are buying a higher price point subtract from the price and multiply by 25% and that is what you would have to put down. Probably confusing, Im going to do a few videos to explain further.

Post: Best Places To Invest In Phoenix - Agree or Disagree

Andrew McGuire
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chandler, AZ
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Quote from @Bretton F Trapnell:
Quote from @Andrew McGuire:

Phoenix is the largest metropolitan area in Arizona and 5th largest city in the country with a population of 1.6M people. When you include the entire Phoenix Metropolitan area it triples that and is right at 5M people which makes it one of the top 10 most populous metros in the entire United States.

So when it comes to where you want to live in the Phoenix Metro It can be a daunting decision because there are many large suburbs and they are all very different and that is why in this video I thought it would be helpful to narrow it down to five. 

So when were coming up with these top suburbs were looking at some key factors. Those factors are population, median Home Price, average drive time to downtown Phoenix, public school ranking and last but certainly not least - what that suburb has for restaurants, nightlife and other entertainment

#5 on our list is the City of Queen Creek. Queen Creek Arizona is a suburb located 39 Miles to the Southeast of Downtown Phoenix. With a population of 78K people your going to spend an average of 51 minutes getting into the heart of downtown Phoenix. With and average Price of right around $737K. As far as Schools go, Queen Creek is above average and was given a B+. As far as restaurants, dining and other activities. Queen Creek is thriving with new restaurants, shopping and parks. You can't go far without finding something new and trendy and exciting to do in Queen Creek. With all that it has going for it Queen Creek would have been on the top of this list but that 39 mile drive into Phoenix Takes it down a few spots.

#4 on our list of suburbs here in Phoenix is the City of Tempe. Tempe sits just a few miles from the city of Phoenix being separated by Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport and is the gateway to the East Valley in Phoenix. Tempe has about 183K permanent residents, I say permanent because it is also home to Arizona State University. Which is one of the largest universities in all of the United states with a massive enrollment of 73K students as of 2023. The Average home price is 645k which is above average in the Phoenix Metro. As far as the public school system Tempe is above average and ranked as 14th best district in Arizona. Tempe has a ton going on as far as things to do year around from paddle boarding on Tempe Town Lake, To shopping and dining on Mill Ave and Tempe market place. Even some of the neighborhoods further from the cool downtown are being developed with some great breweries and other dining areas.

#3 on our list is the suburb of Scottsdale Arizona. Scottsdale is a City 13 Miles East of downtown Phoenix. Your going to spend an average of 23 minutes getting to the heart of downtown Phoenix. Scottsdale has a population of about 247K and the average home price is about 1.4M. It probably would have taken the top spot on this list but there are some affordability issues with Scottsdale. The public school ranking in Scottsdale is an A and 2nd highest rated in all of Arizona. Now when it comes to dining, nightlife and entertainment you are going to have a hard time finding a better place than Scottsdale Arizona. The city has several bustling districts such as Old Town Scottsdale and Kierland Commons and is the epicenter of Arizona's tourism season from the months of December to April.

The #2 suburb on our list today is Chandler Arizona. Chandler is a city 25 miles Southeast of Phoenix and on average is a 25 Mile drive. With a population of about 280K residents it is one of the largest suburbs in the Phoenix metro. Chandler has the top rated public school system in all of Arizona with and A Rating. This suburb southeast of Phoenix has a median house price of $630K. Chandler is most notable for a thriving tech job market and with that comes a ton of development. You'll have great shopping, dining and restaurant options all over town but especially in downtown And Chandler Fashion Square.

And the #1 suburb on this list today is Gilbert Arizona. Gilbert Arizona is a suburb located Southeast of downtown Phoenix by about 24 miles and the average drive into downtown takes about 35 minutes. With a population of 281K residents Gilbert is the 5th largest city in Arizona. The average home price in Gilbert is around 665K. Gilbert has some stellar public schools and is ranked #3 in Arizona with and A rating. Gilbert also has some major parks like Gilbert Regional Park. A new surf park coming and a slew of new developments on the horizon. From an entertainment and dining perspective Gilbert is hard to beat, there is a thriving downtown with tons of restaurants, nightlife and coffee shops. You also have some other booming dining and entertainment areas like SanTan Village and Agritopia. Overall Gilbert is a really cool part of the Phoenix Metro

Now how about some honorable mentions. Some that didn’t make the list today but are also great places to live here in Phoenix Are Peoria, Mesa, Glendale and Paradise Valley just to name a few. There are so many great places to live in the Phoenix area

So tell me what am I missing, what are your favorite suburbs in the Phoenix metro. You can tell me in the comments below.

Hey Andrew!

Great lists and really good info here.

I think so much of buying a home to live in is going to be based on personal tastes and opinions.Those wanting to live the busy city with public transport and close to amenities are not going to love queen creek and will likely want to be in Tempe by the lake or downtown Phoenix.

If they want historically lower cost homes but to be out away from the busy city life, Parts of Glendale are good options.

Bigger budget but want to be out away from the city still? Queen creek or San Tan are amazing communities.

If any of the following words describe your tastes: high class, flashy, bougie; look no further than Scottsdale, Biltmore, or Arcadia, but be prepared to hand over your wallet.

It’s hard to generally classify cities and much easier to see exactly what each individual is looking for to guide them and let them make the best decision on where to go.

 Completely agree and of course this is an opinion piece.  There are things like jobs, education new attractions, etc. but you can ask 10 people and all have a different answer. 

Post: Best Places To Invest In Phoenix - Agree or Disagree

Andrew McGuire
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chandler, AZ
  • Posts 206
  • Votes 154
Quote from @Colleen F.:

@Andrew McGuire So for STR what has the most year round occupancy? Same order for the list? I have a personal residence only in the east valley so know the area but not the rental market. Although my neighbor was STR his house.


The strange thing is I've had great luck in places for occupancies no one would think of. My E Mesa, Casa Grande and Queen Creek listings perform the best. I have a friend in Glendale by ASU Campus and Hospital that do really well. My Gilbert STR has been terrible as of lately..

Post: Working W2 Job for 16 Years Vs 4 Years RE Investing....The Aha Moment

Andrew McGuire
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chandler, AZ
  • Posts 206
  • Votes 154
Quote from @Ryan David Dodd:

Thank you for taking the time to post this story of hope.  I know it's not easy but it's got to be better than what I'm doing for $40/hr.  When my dad passed away, I sold his business and leased the property to the buyer of the business, which is thriving. It's mostly hands off income with no debt. I'm excited about the possibilities, and this adds hope that it's possible to grow. 

Ryan, from the looks of your profile pic you may have access to a powerful wealth builder if used the right way. The VA loan, I’m doing a YouTube video and blog on the topic right now. Reach out if I ever want to connect 

Post: Tempted to buy a rehabbed home on Zillow

Andrew McGuire
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  • Chandler, AZ
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I don't know about STR's in Phoenix right now unless you are really willing to put in the extra time and money to make it rise to the top. I just can't make the numbers work right now on anything at 7% and Revenue Per Available Listing (RevPAL) taking such a huge hit this last year. That being said I still believe we have huge appreciation ahead of us in Phoenix and am buying for Principle Pay Down, Deprecation and Appreciation, just trying to break even on cashflow on my recent deals.

Post: SubTo Deal - Lien Question

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  • Chandler, AZ
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as a seller I always want a "performance Deed" which is literally a paragraph the title company drafts and says if Buyer goes into default by this many days. The performance Deed along with a decent down payment is usually enough to ensure your position as seller.