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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 3 posts and replied 4 times.

Post: Buying out of state: Finance at home or locally?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Springfield, MO
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 0

When purchasing/financing a property out of state, if all else is equal, is it better to go through a local bank or CU in the area of the property or would it be better to go through a bank near where I live?

Post: 4-Plex Deal Analysis. What am I missing?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Springfield, MO
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 0

Hi all,

Apologies for the delayed response. First, I appreciate everyone's feedback. Hearing everyone's thoughts has made me look more into the numbers. I also want to say that while I am searching for a property in KC to buy, I will not be making a purchase until early next year when I move back to the area. That being said, I am fairly unfamiliar with the area (other than what I've read on BP) and I have not even toured the place nor have I had it inspected. One unit has been remodeled and looks nice and the other 3, although not remodeled recently are still in good shape.

Soo... as for location, the zip code is 64123 and it is fully occupied but the landlord will not release financials ATM. I know it was mentioned that I could not get the 3.5 down payment without living there. I intend to live in the place I purchase and have updated the report to reflect the 3 unit rent rate. Regarding the rent, I just used the average rent for 2 bedrooms in KC (from rentcafe) and decreased it by $50. Is this not a common rate to get when renting in KC? 

Updated numbers:

*note I've ran this a few times so the numbers may be off again somewhere*

$145,000PURCHASE PRICE

Purchase Closing Costs$3,000.00
Estimated Repairs$15,000.00
Total Project Cost$163,000.00
After Repair Value$170,000.00
Down Payment$79,000.00
Loan Amount$67,320.00
Loan Points$1,320.00
Amortized Over30 years
Loan Interest Rate5.400%
Monthly P&I$378.02
Total Cash Needed$97,000.00
Monthly income:
Rent:$2,700.00
Other:$0.00
Total Monthly Cashflow using 50% Rule:$971.98

Post: 4-Plex Deal Analysis. What am I missing?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Springfield, MO
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 0

Hello, I am looking at fourplexes in the Kansas City, MO area. First, I want to preface this analysis by saying that I am fairly new to running reports and I have not spoken with a bank nor have I been pre-approved for any loan, still I have good credit so I made a conservative guess on the interest rate and loan points. All that being said, I' have come across a property that seems like a great deal but I want to get other opinions and see if I'm missing anything.

$145,000PURCHASE PRICE

Purchase Closing Costs$2,000.00
Estimated Repairs$20,000.00
Total Project Cost$167,000.00
After Repair Value$170,000.00
Down Payment$7,250.00
Loan Amount$141,882.50
Loan Points$4,132.50
Amortized Over30 years
Loan Interest Rate5.400%
Monthly P&I$796.71
Total Cash Needed$29,250.00
Monthly income:
Rent:$3,500.00
Other:$0.00

Total operating expenses:Mortgage expenses:
Vacancy:$350.00Repairs:$350.00
CapEx:$350.00PMI:$40.00
Garbage:$20.00Insurance:$56.00
Management:$350.00P&I:$796.71
Property Taxes:
Total Monthly Income:$3,500.00
x50% for Expenses:$1,750.00
Monthly Payment/Interest Payment:$796.71
Total Monthly Cashflow using 50% Rule:$953.29

I made conservative estimates on everything. With these numbers this property would give me almost $240 per month per door. So what am I missing? Should I get approved for a loan and put in an offer tomorrow?

Post: Which is better: Springfield, MO or Kansas City, MO

Account ClosedPosted
  • Springfield, MO
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 0

Hi all,

I'm currently living in Seattle, WA but am looking to make a move back to my home state, Missouri. I plan to purchase a four-plex and use that as a jumping off point but I am not sure where to go. I want to move to a city that will allow for the best opportunities regarding REI. I am looking into Springfield or Kansas City and I was wondering if anyone has any advice on either. What are the pros and cons of choosing one over the other? Any thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated!