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All Forum Posts by: Andrew Burrell

Andrew Burrell has started 7 posts and replied 21 times.

Post: LLC Creation Advice

Andrew BurrellPosted
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Thank you guys for the replies! Very helpful.

Post: LLC Creation Advice

Andrew BurrellPosted
  • Posts 21
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Hey BP community,

I am an investor with two single family properties in Northwest Arkansas. I currently have these homes in my personal name, but have been debating whether or not to create an LLC for these rentals.

I am in no rush to do this, and I have heard the argument both ways on leaving them in my personal name vs forming an entity, so I am looking for any advice the community may have. I do look to grow beyond two properties, but not necessarily at a rapid pace.

Finally, if I were to do this, what are the proper steps in forming an LLC and then transferring them into that entity? I've seen different things out there regarding best practices.


I would appreciate any advice on this.
Thank you!




Quote from @Susan H.:

Hi Andrew,

I own several single-family homes in Fayetteville. You are not required to pay upfront costs (and shouldn't, in my opinion.)

I require written verification from utility companies (water, gas, electric) that utilities have been assigned to Tenant effective the first day of occupancy; no confirmation = no keys and lease approval withdrawn). Tenants are responsible for all costs related to utilities.  [This and other information is included with the notification their application has been approved. It's also included in the Rental Qualification Criteria given to applicants.]

I provide approved tenants with the utility company information (name, phone #, website, etc.), as well as a link to https://www.fayetteville-ar.gov/4052/My-Fayetteville-Service... Since access to Internet service varies by location within/around Fayetteville, I encourage them to check with their preferred provider. Also, some utilities may require a deposit, so it's best that the tenants contact those utilities ASAP.  

I hope this is helpful to you! ~Susan

Hi Susan - my apologies for the delay in response. This was extremely helpful! Thank you for your advice. Awesome to hear you own several SFH in the area as well! I just have the one but am looking to acquire more.

Hi all,

I am the owner of a brand new, new construction SFH in Fayetteville, Arkansas. I have not set up internet or any other utilities, as there have been no tenants living in the property since I closed in late February. The first tenants are moving in July 1, and they have asked me to cover the costs associated with the installation of any new services (i.e., internet), and then they will transfer it into their name at the start of the lease. They essentially want me to set everything up and pay the upfront costs, then they will transfer everything into their name and pay the ongoing fees throughout the lease. Does anyone know if I am required to do this for them upfront?

Thank you!

Quote from @Ryan Thomson:

@Andrew Burrell I would connect with @Paul De Luca he knows his house hacking stuff in the Chicago market!

Thanks Ryan! I appreciate you letting me know.

Quote from @Crystal Smith:
Quote from @Andrew Burrell:

Hi everyone,

My name is Andrew and I am currently located in Boston, MA. My girlfriend and I are looking to move to Chicago some time in 2025 (likely the fall) for her job, and we are looking to buy a small multifamily property (2-4 units). We will live in one of the units and rent out the other(s).

I became extremely interested in real estate investing in 2023, and with the help of my dad I actually purchased an out of state single-family investment property in Northwest Arkansas that is set to close in a couple weeks. I have already secured renters and am very excited to get started.

Regarding the Chicago market, I have come to understand that there is an abundance of multi-family properties, but it is important to note the property taxes outside the city limits can be very high. It is also obviously important to make sure the property is located in a good neighborhood.

I am still over a year away from buying a property in Chicago, but I wanted to post here to get to know some people in the market and hear any advice/thoughts any people on here may have. While I do currently have one investment property, this will be my first house hack, so I am very excited to learn any tips and tricks to look out for in this particular market.

Looking forward to hearing from you guys!

Andrew


 Welcome to the forum and eventually welcome to Chicago.  The wonderful thing about Chicago is the diversity of neighborhoods and investment opportunities, from small to big.  You also don't have to limit the opportunities to the city property.  There's also the burbs.  And if you decide to become an out of state investor while living in Chicago the airports will get you just about anyplace in the US with a direct flight.

You are right regarding carefully watching the property taxes outside of city limits, but there are still opportunities.  

Regarding your comment about making sure the property is located in a "good neighborhood"- When it comes to investing in a property that you are personally going to live in pick a neighborhood that works for you.  But in my opinion as an investor, you have to be careful about the term "good neighborhood".   Chicago, like New York and Boston, is always changing and there are some neighborhoods that a few years ago people would say they are "bad neighborhoods".  Now those neighborhoods are hot, trendy, and gentrified....  That happens because of investors.  So research all of the neighborhoods. There may be one that is transitioning from bad to good & that may be a good fit for you. 


Thank you so much, Crystal. Extremely valuable advice and that is a great point regarding the neighborhoods especially. I appreciate it!

Quote from @John Warren:

@Andrew Burrell welcome to the forums! You are going to meet tons of great folks here as the Chicago community is really robust. I have always focused my investing in the suburbs as our kids pulled us to the burb early on. I also invest in the city now, and I have enjoyed the contrast quite a bit. I own in Albany Park and Irving Park, and I am finding that the rents are very dynamic there. At the same time, the taxes are creeping up on our properties, so there are still taxes in the city. The buildings we have in the burbs have performed very well. Berwyn made a bit more sense in the past, but is a little tougher to make work now as appreciation has happened. We still see deals in Forest Park, Elmwood Park, and other surrounding burbs from time to time. 


 Thank you John! That is very helpful information, it is much appreciated.

Quote from @Jonathan Klemm:

Hi @Andrew Burrell - Welcome to Chicago in the near future and congrats on your upcoming closing!

You are spot on, there are a ton of multi-family properties here in Chicago are price points across the board.  

The new loan program allowing 5% down and renovation is an amazing vehicle....given you have time on your side, if I were you, I would find a property that needs a heavy renovation and get it completed before you even get there.

I am happy to connect and make some introductions to some rock star real estate folks here in the area.


 Thanks Jonathan! Just messaged you.

Quote from @Wale Lawal:

@Andrew Burrell

It's great to hear about your interest in real estate investing and your plans for purchasing a small multifamily property in Chicago for house hacking. Chicago is indeed a vibrant market with many opportunities, especially in the multifamily sector.

Here are some tips and considerations as you prepare for your move and property purchase in Chicago:

Research Neighborhoods: Chicago is a varied city with a wide range of neighborhoods, each with special qualities and investment opportunities of its own. To choose the neighborhood that best fits your lifestyle and financial objectives, take the time to investigate many options. Think about things like the demand for rentals and the accessibility of facilities, schools, and public transit.

Understand Property Taxes: Depending on the neighborhood and kind of property, property taxes in Chicago might differ greatly. Make sure to take property taxes into account when assessing possible investments. Increased property taxes may have an effect on your total investment returns and cash flow.

Make Connections with Local Investors: Gaining knowledge of the Chicago market may be achieved by establishing connections with real estate brokers, property managers, and other experts in the field. Join in on local seminars, networking events, and meetings for real estate to network with seasoned investors and gain insight from their experiences.

Evaluate your options for Financing: Investigate your choices for financing multifamily residences, such as conventional loans, FHA loans, and other mortgage programs. To identify the best financing option for your circumstances, compare terms, interest rates, and required down payment amounts.

Assess Property Management: Having dependable property management in place to handle your Chicago investment property is essential for long-distance investors. Make sure prospective candidates have the skills and knowledge necessary to manage your property by doing research on local property management firms and setting up interviews with them.

You may set yourself up for success as a real estate investor in the Windy City by investing the time to thoroughly investigate the Chicago market, connect with industry experts in the area, and perform due diligence. 

I wish you well on your investing adventure and encourage you to get in touch if you need help or have any more questions!


 Hey Wale, thank you so much!

Quote from @Paul De Luca:
Quote from @Andrew Burrell:

Hi everyone,

My name is Andrew and I am currently located in Boston, MA. My girlfriend and I are looking to move to Chicago some time in 2025 (likely the fall) for her job, and we are looking to buy a small multifamily property (2-4 units). We will live in one of the units and rent out the other(s).

I became extremely interested in real estate investing in 2023, and with the help of my dad I actually purchased an out of state single-family investment property in Northwest Arkansas that is set to close in a couple weeks. I have already secured renters and am very excited to get started.

Regarding the Chicago market, I have come to understand that there is an abundance of multi-family properties, but it is important to note the property taxes outside the city limits can be very high. It is also obviously important to make sure the property is located in a good neighborhood.

I am still over a year away from buying a property in Chicago, but I wanted to post here to get to know some people in the market and hear any advice/thoughts any people on here may have. While I do currently have one investment property, this will be my first house hack, so I am very excited to learn any tips and tricks to look out for in this particular market.

Looking forward to hearing from you guys!

Andrew

 Nice work getting your first property! You are correct that Chicago does have a lot of 2-4 unit properties and that is great news for house hackers like yourself. I've house hacked in Berwyn and Chicago for the last 4 years plus worked with many house hackers so I'm open to sharing my experience if that would be helpful.

Like @Jake Fugman said the first step is to connect with lenders experienced working with house hackers and talk about your financing options. There are nuances to house hacking here so you want to have a team (lender, agent, attorney, etc) that has a track record of helping house hackers.


Hey Paul, thank you! Much appreciated. I just connected with you and would love to hear about your experience.