Thank you for clearing things up, @Joshua Velte! I keep trying to explain that pricing, especially in and nearby the DMV area everything is over priced lol. People outside of the DMV don't seem to grasp that everything is three to four times more than anything should be. Also, I personally thought it would be about $103K but the contractor quoted us for $130K (I did not tell him my numbers, I wanted to see what he would tell us). Now, to be fair, he quoted us $130K to do everything on the two moldy properties that came on this acre of land, the mold remediation alone for both properties was about $30K itself ($15K for the big house, and $4k-$6K for the small house — as he was unsure the exact price since some walls in there maybe kept or maybe not depending on what they find when they start demo). It was all the other repairs, and me wanting a sump pump for both properties as well as nice kitchens (3 total) that got it all the way up to $130K to $150K. Like my attitude was since we wanted to live in one and rent the other, I wanted to pay the costs now up-front to not have to worry about anything for the next 20 years. Everything has to be redone on that house, including the roof lol. The only thing in good shape was the deck haha, that was it. Out of the four full bathrooms in the main big house, only one full bath was completed lol. It was as if the house had been worked on and a rehab crew gave up (maybe the mold started and they freaked out). Most of the mold ruined their usual work other than the bathrooms since the bathrooms were ceramic tile lol.
I think the reason why the bank hasn't gone lower than $200K is because it has two houses and the land alone is worth $108K (according to the tax assessment). It would be a dream to nab all this at $80K or even $100K, but realistically they may only take 10% less than their listing price and nothing less. Yet, what you are telling me is it might be better to just go for the listed price as they may not budge at all?
As for it now being under contract, my agent confirmed that after I crunched all my numbers by calling up my insurance, someone that Monday morning got it under contract and I was late to the game by 2pm that same day when I got my agent to put in our offer. He confirmed that it has been on the market up until that morning sometime before noon. I bet us going to see the property that Saturday set off the people waiting to buy it and they finally moved on it, as it had been on some listings for 4+ months at the lowered $200K price. Ugh, as a newbie making sure my numbers were accurate I ended up being too slow. I had hoped that since the mold was so bad, and the house was so strangely unique for this area without having apples to apples as comparables to ever be a good candidate for a flip, that even at $200K it would send any and all investors running, I guess I was wrong. Someone who knows exactly what they are doing can make $200K work, even up to $230K would work if the investor had a cheap but still quality contractor if they were going to do something other than literally flip this property. Even our Agent was surprised that it got under contract at that price in that condition with its specs, because even if it was fixed up nice it would still be a difficult sell due to its location and uniqueness. I was only willing to get it as it was going to be a live-in flip + a rental. Its uniqueness didn't bother my fiancé or I as we are eccentric artists and the secluded wooded location was perfect for us given our personal preferences about noise issues. I even spent time that morning confirming that I could in fact register two separate addresses even though it has been one address for both properties, that way I could rent the big house with less problems from my insurance. All that time I spent, making extra sure about my numbers and if I had the resources to make my plan work ended up costing me this deal. Really a bit bummed, but it taught me about REOs and now I'm combing through the HUD listings now too lol.
Anyways, everything you said makes perfect sense to me. Thank you so much for your insight in this tough and overpriced market in and around the DMV.
I only have one question regarding this scenario, pertaining to what the contractor told me: is it true that the original hardwood floors can be kept from a moldy house if they get refinished and sanded on the back side too? Does that really take care of the mold that attached to the flooring (due to the moisture issue after the mold crept up all the walls it flung itself onto every single thing in that house lol including the floors), or is it like mold on bread where the mold has roots and is all over inside even when the surface is sanded off? I have mold allergies and really need to know if this is legit, in case we come across another mold property and end up buying and rehabbing it.
Thanks again so much!