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All Forum Posts by: Alon A.

Alon A. has started 42 posts and replied 134 times.

Post: Manage your property by yourself

Alon A.Posted
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Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Alon A.:

Hey guys 

I would like to ask you what kind of app is recommended to manage the property by your self including screening , payments , messages and everything basically 

I don’t live at the state of my properties so I have also real estate agent that will show the properties to renters. 
 and I also have team to do repairs 


please help me with app names the you are using 


 DONT DO IT, it why do you want to deal with any of it ?  the PM is meaningless. 


 What do you mean why I want to deal with all that ?  Why not ? Sometime property management charge you more and do things that cost a lot of money 

I have experience to deal with people and be customer service because that’s my job I’m a project manager at remodeling for years.. 

If I see it’s to hard all good but it’s for 2-3 properties it’s not 10-15 when I reach to this stage I’ll take property management company 

Post: Manage your property by yourself

Alon A.Posted
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Hey guys 

I would like to ask you what kind of app is recommended to manage the property by your self including screening , payments , messages and everything basically 

I don’t live at the state of my properties so I have also real estate agent that will show the properties to renters. 
 and I also have team to do repairs 


please help me with app names the you are using 

Post: Expanses of my LLC

Alon A.Posted
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hey guys help please ?

Post: Expanses of my LLC

Alon A.Posted
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Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Alon Attias

Money should never go from LLC to LLC

Money should go from LLC 1 to you and then to LLC 2 (note not an accountant but this is what they have advised me)

When you pull money from one it’s an equity draw and into the other ;contribution)

Why do you need so many LLC's ?

I have only 1 LLC in texas with 2-3 properties on this LLC
I dont have two..

I have S corp in California that that is my main income and business

Post: Expanses of my LLC

Alon A.Posted
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Hey guys 

I have business here in California that I have most of my money over there sitting in the bank account (this business not related to real estate investment) 

It’s my work and day day job 


I opened LLC in texas , and opened few days ago bank account for that

I transferred from the California account all the down payments and closing to title company. And I wired it to them.

Current I’m in remodel of two properties.  In texas 

I wanted to ask , should I transfer money to my LLC and use all expanses and payments to the contractors & all related to that from there ? reason I'm asking because the lender reimburse me 100% of remodel and the money should go back to account I used for title company.

But if I use my expanses in my LLC should I reimburse it to the LLC or to the account I have in California (the account I did so far all transactions) 


I didn't have yet bank account for my LLC that's why I used it from my California business account.


Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Alon Attias

You are missing a huge point that this is money you borrowed.

If someone gives you $70k and you spent $30k on renovation you still have $40k cash that you can use to pay back to the hard money lender so when you refinance you owe less…

 It means that if I loan 70K remodel + house Loan that is 300K 

and ARV is 420K * 80% (re finance)

I’m out of pocket 370K - 336K = 34K ? 

Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Alon Attias

Let’s say it’s $270k and remodel costs $100k you now have $370k in debt and house sells for $400k. You make $30k

What it remodel only costs $70k? You now have $340k in costs and when you sell you make $60k

The less something costs you the more you can make when you sell it

Lender will fund up to an amount and you are paying interest on it- whether you spend it all or not he gets paid the same but it’s in your interest not to spend it all and be under budget


 I just have to wrapped my head about the reimbursement with draws 

let’s say I finish in 2 months the remodel and monthly payment is 5K 


remodel costs 70K but I finish all in 2 months and all the 70K I spent coming back to my account since all stages completed. 

it means that From my perspective, it seems like I didn’t spent nothing , yes I pay more interest on higher remodel fee but if the difference is 30k or 70K , it doesn’t really 40K difference from my pocket it’s a few thousands for the interest that I will pay more 

My exit strategy is to BRRRR not sell.

Thank you 

Quote from @Steven Goldman:

Good morning: Most rehab lenders charge interest on the entire loan regardless of whether you use the construction hold back or not. The lender finances 100 percent of the construction costs because the entire business model is dependent on your achieving your ARV so that you can exit the bridge loan and refinance or sell the property for a profit. The profit or refinance is your exit strategy that permits you to pay them back, since the entire loan exceeds the present value of the property. So you make less money then working out of your pocket because you are paying interest on the construction hold back from the time you draw the money. Some private lenders will lend you 100 percent of the purchase price and rehab. costs. You only have to contribute closing costs. Those lenders usually charge interest from the day of settlement on all of the money and many do not hold back the renovation funds. (Very risky which is why they charge higher interest rates and often more points.)

The  lender funds 100 percent of construction cost to inure that you will have adequate funds to put into the property. You often exceed that number because the lender can not plan for all hidden contingencies and change orders. Its just a underwriting formula that they have created which fits into their credit risk policy. (Credit risk is the potential for the borrower to default) I hope that helps you see the big picture from the lenders perspective.

Thank you so much !! 

How it’s affecting exit way if i spent 70K and it’s fully refundable 

in this case only thing I’m paying it’s more interest but the remodel price not affecting since it’s not cash out of pocket 

the lender will reimburse everything 

I’m correct ?  



Quote from @Allan Smith:

A lot to unpack here that can't all be explained in a forum. But for starters, remember lender makes money on interest. And the more money they lend, the more interest they make. Also remember that if you spend more on repairs... you make less money. And that's the point of doing the deal.


 Make sense 

That is the part I need to understand, why I make less money if I spend 70K and eventually after I finish the remodel I get back the 70K so it means I didn’t really spent on remodel 

Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Alon A.:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Alon A.:

Hey guys 

I would like to understand something 

Purchase price: $270K

Reno: 70K

ARV: 420K


My lender fund 75% from ARV which is 315K , it covers the purchase price  

also he covers 100% or rehab , I need explanation about the rehab , why should they cover for me 100% of rehab , what are they gaining from that ? 
eventually I spend money from my pocket on the remodeling and everything is coming back for me , what is the catch here ? They really financing 100% of remodel , if this is the case , even if the remodel will be 100K so why to save on remodel costs ? I understand the draw process and I have the money in the bank , so as long I can finance it by myself before the draws I’m good ? 

Please help me understand it


thank you 

How much money do they want from you up front for "processing fees" and other items?

 No down payment at all 

$1495 processing fee

2.99% origination 

14% interest only 


Okay, to understand the loan interest, you add the origination fee to the interest only fee to get a total interest rate for the year. In this caes, it's 16.99% (basically 17%).

So, when you hear back from the other two lenders I am sure you are going to contact, you may find a 1% origination and 10% interest for 11% interest for example.

So, if you borrow $315,000
in scenario one you have an origination fee of  $9,450 and a monthly of $3,832 times 12 months equals $45,984 + origination fee of $9,450 = $55,434 cost for the year
in scenario two you have an origination fee of $3,150 and a monthly of $2,864 times 12 months equals $34,368 + origination fee of $3,150 = $37,518 cost for the year

That is how you compare loans regarding fees. In these cases scenario 1 is $17,916 more expensive than scenario 2




 I understands the loan thank you m

I asked about the remodel costs , I didn’t understand what it means 100% funded . Check my question again above