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All Forum Posts by: Alison Lee

Alison Lee has started 10 posts and replied 29 times.

Post: Closing Cost Question

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We are going to buy a house for us to move into. We had entertained the idea of a conventional loan but quickly realized that the closing costs were going to be very expensive. 

Would I be better off paying cash and then doing a refinance? We would like to refinance if we decide to pay cash because it needs some remodeling. Are the costs associated with refinancing cheaper than the costs associated with buying a house via loan?? Thank you!!

Post: 225k for three duplexes

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Comparables rent for $600-$700 per door, that's why I feel like they need to be upped. These are roughly 6 miles out into the country from the county seat and that's why they're cheap rent. 

Post: 225k for three duplexes

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Here's the situation: I can buy three duplexes for a total of 225k. The rent roll is small @ $375/door or $2,250 total per month. Property taxes would be roughly 2k per year, maybe $2500 at most. 

They are 40 years old and two of the three need a new roof. The seller said he would actually put these roofs on for me if I decided to buy them...meaning it would be included in the 225k. They are all full and typically have a waiting list according to him. Seller is 70 and wants to sell because of health/age. 

I feel like they need to be $450/door. He already stated to the renters that it is going up to $400/door upon new roof being put on. They are in average to above average shape. I walked them the other day and they're not dumps be any stretch. 

Thoughts??? 

I just bought a SF with cash and we put it under an LLC. The only reason we do it that way is in case of a lawsuit. It protects my other assets if we get sued.

Post: 1 bedrm/1 bath duplex

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We have an opportunity at a one bedroom and one bathroom duplex. It is a pretty nice place. My question is do these have strong demand? I'm assuming they would have more turnover? Thanks! 

Jerry, 

What would be your standard procedure when buying a mobile home from the 80s/90s? In my area, I see people actually putting in replacement windows, laminate flooring, 50 year metal roofs, and the standard kitchen/bath renovations. I could easily see this method of renovating soaring to 20k-30k. 

Post: 420k for two A property duplexes

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Thanks for the response.  My take on the situation is that the builder still owns them and is wanting to sell them. He probably stands to cut a hog's *** even at 400k. 

These duplexes are surrounded by 300k-500k homes here in the upper south/lower midwest. So the neighborhood is nice. These would sell for one million plus on the coasts.

Post: 420k for two A property duplexes

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I have a shot at two duplexes, four doors total that they're asking 475k total. These are A properties, and approximately 2-3 years old. Each door rents at $975 and all four have tenants. Taxes would be roughly $4,750 per year if bought at 475k. Insurance would be $1200 per duplex or $2400 total. Maintenance expenses would/should be small... 

Is this an attractive deal? I feel like I could possibly buy these for 425k. Thank you!

Post: Who is buying in this market?

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Originally posted by @Erik W.:

One of the great ways to find better returns is by re-positioning a property to a higher standard (I think someone else mentioned this already) but here I am specifically interest in the lower cost of renovation vs. a new build.  Let's take a place I was looking at a few weeks ago as an example.  20 unit apartment with about 1000 sq ft per apartment.  Price was $1.1 million.  They needed some work, but approximately half of the units had been renovated nicely within the last 1-2 years.  It was also in a good location close to employment, services, and attractions.  The cost per square foot = $55.

Compare that to brand new builds which are between $120 - $150/sq ft.  You can do a lot of rehab on a place and bring it from C+ to B+ or A- with that kind of margin.  Let's say you spent $20/sq foot or $400,000 total ($20K per unit) to freshen up & put some sparkle on it.  Turn an ugly duckling into a swan and still be in for 1/3 to 1/2 the cost of a new build.

Although I'm getting into multi-family, I also still buy houses I call "little ATMs" too.  $30K "all in" and get $600-$650/rent.  Cash flow is typically $200-$300/month per door for $30K.  That's 8%-12% return on capital, but if you can get into them for nothing then your return is theoretically infinite as well as significant in terms of real dollars when you have several dozen.

Question, where are you getting into 30k houses and renting them out for $600+??

Post: Who is buying in this market?

Alison LeePosted
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Originally posted by @Russell Brazil:
Originally posted by @Arthur P.:

@Russell Brazil I understand the concept but who is buying at these low returns? You can get into stocks with these returns

 Well Im certainly buying and continue to grow rich in doing so. However I wouldnt be buying in all cash.  The greatest aspect of real estate investing is using leverage to purchase it.  Your return is artificially low in purchasing in all cash.

 Couldn't the same be said for using leverage? Buying with leverage creates an artificial looking return if you ask me.