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All Forum Posts by: Alexander Phillips

Alexander Phillips has started 1 posts and replied 4 times.

We ended up closing on September 15th, 2024


All 4 student tenants that were put in the building around August 14th, 2024 by selling agent lived there for 5-7 weeks and didn't pay rent.  All of them broke lease and moved out

It's a mess

Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Alexander Phillips

like the others i am struggling because while i sympathize with you, none of this is really adding up...

i'm also worried about what you putting "full trust" in your mentor means.

sounds like you need to print a copy of your contract out, read it, get out to the site in person, and sort this out.  none of knows what anyone promised you or didn't, or was supposed to inform you of and didn't.

good luck


The context of trusting my mentor was merely as to the location.  I am trusting my mentors on the location, that this is a good place to be and it will appreciate.  The area is probably a "Class C" location.

Thanks again everyone

Thanks guys for all the input.  I'll look over the contract and what the fine print is here.

This entire first journey of looking at real estate has been stressful from afar, and this deal sounds like it has a few of the crazier aspects of real estate (and I'm sure there's even more)

Why the listing agent put tenants in, I  have no idea.  I was irritated they didn't inform myself, my property manager, inspection guy, etc.  I believe we will have to get the tenants on new contracts.

I haven't been to the area, but I did decide to put full trust into my mentor and the #s still cash flow, although I'm putting in more significant starting cash than I had ever planned on.

I'm fortunate to have a decent W-2, and going forward I realize I really have to take full responsibility for the loan and be my own best advocate for the interest rate.  Disappointing to hear that the 8s are high, but at least the numbers still cash flow and we're in deep on this deal, so I'll consider my options here and consider what a re-finance looks like later.

Appreciate your input guys!

Hi all,
I was supposed to close today on a $270k new build duplex out-of-state, but it's been delayed to Tuesday.  Can I get any general advice on what my options are?  Can I back out?  What are my costs if I back out?

Some of the headaches in this process:
1) Duplex wasn't ready for inspection, even though Listing Agent had set the date.  Inspection rep facetimed me saying hey this is a mess, inspection should NOT have been today, there's leaks everywhere, nothing is ready, etc.  .....I had to pay for the 2nd Inspection
2) New build wasn't supposed to have tenants, on the day of 2nd inspection 2 weeks ago, again I get a call from the Inspection rep that there were people living on both sides.  I called my property manager and she hadn't set up any tenants, and was set to interview a bunch of people.  Thought I had squatters already.  Turns out the Listing Agent put tenants in herself.
3) I found out 3 days before close that Comparable rents came back too low, despite the Listing Agent having put tenants in for higher rent (an interesting positive from that situation), but the Lender couldn't use her contracts.  We've been scrambling since, they offered for me to put 40% down, or to buy the interest rate down, I said no.  It's since been resolved
4) I had planned for 2% Closing Costs, but the Closing Costs are actually 5.3%, which is quite the chunk of change that I was not planning on. 
5) I also had found out 3 days ago that this was a DSCR loan, not a conventional loan. It clicked then why the interest rate was so high (8.4%) and why closing costs were higher than expected. I am having them look into a conventional loan hopefully today, but I don't know how this affects things with the close date.

What are my options and what would you do if you were me?