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All Forum Posts by: Alexander Mir

Alexander Mir has started 1 posts and replied 7 times.

Post: Long Term Rental Investment

Alexander MirPosted
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Quote from @Melissa Nash:

What is the returns for profits in these areas? did you run the LTR cost with rents? You are probably upside down in Kissimmee for LTR. I always run my STRs with LTR rents also, as my back up plan if cities change permits or cause me to switch to LTR 

Thank you for your response,
There are some areas that still have new homes for low $300s I figure with a good down payment I can get a bit of cash flow, I know I won’t get rich overnight but when rates go down I can refinance and hopefully in the future I will be in the position to buy some distressed properties and repair them, maximizing future income.

Post: Long Term Rental Investment

Alexander MirPosted
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Quote from @John Landskroener:
Quote from @Chris Rich:
Quote from @Alexander Mir:

Hello Bigger Pockets Community,


I was interested in investing in a long term rental property in the near future, but live in Miami Fl. Where the property values are way too high to invest in. I was looking at the Davenport and Kissimmee areas where you can still buy a brand new house in the low $300k's. I would prefer a brand new or newer home as I would be managing it from Miami and rather not use a management company. I was wondering how the market was for long term rentals in those areas. I see a ton of people talking about STR but nothing about LTR.

Is there good demand for LTRs in these areas?

I noticed Amazon has 5 facilities in Davenport this should help provide renters with pretty solid employment. Any thoughts?

Should I be concerned about all the failed STRs turning to LTRs and flooding the market along with all the new construction?

I am a bit concerned about the quality of the schools in the area as I know that affects families staying long term in an area.

Thank you in advance! 
Alex


Hey Alex,

Yes, there are a lot of both STR and LTR in the Kissimmee / Davenport area, but that doesn't mean necessarily mean it's not a good area to invest. The key is finding the areas / neighborhoods with strong rental rates that are not saturated with too many LTRs. I would not be too concerned about the STRs because from what I am seeing with the STR owners transitioning to LTR, most of them want to rent it furnished as a LTR and charge more than market rent. The bigger concern is the saturation of existing LTR rentals.

If you are looking at any specific properties and want me to do a rental analysis, feel free to DM me.
  

Many of them will only turn a profit if they are short term rentals because of the prices. In Kissimmee especially we’re seeing vacancies of ltr of 80 days on average and rental rates under $2200. Is just hard right now unless you’re willing to purchase a flip and hold property in the area.
Thank you for your response,
Yeah, I definitely want to run all those numbers before jumping in to anything. Maybe even research other areas as well. I want to make sure I maximize my chances of success.

Post: Long Term Rental Investment

Alexander MirPosted
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Quote from @Chris Rich:
Quote from @Alexander Mir:

Hello Bigger Pockets Community,


I was interested in investing in a long term rental property in the near future, but live in Miami Fl. Where the property values are way too high to invest in. I was looking at the Davenport and Kissimmee areas where you can still buy a brand new house in the low $300k's. I would prefer a brand new or newer home as I would be managing it from Miami and rather not use a management company. I was wondering how the market was for long term rentals in those areas. I see a ton of people talking about STR but nothing about LTR.

Is there good demand for LTRs in these areas?

I noticed Amazon has 5 facilities in Davenport this should help provide renters with pretty solid employment. Any thoughts?

Should I be concerned about all the failed STRs turning to LTRs and flooding the market along with all the new construction?

I am a bit concerned about the quality of the schools in the area as I know that affects families staying long term in an area.

Thank you in advance! 
Alex


Hey Alex,

Yes, there are a lot of both STR and LTR in the Kissimmee / Davenport area, but that doesn't mean necessarily mean it's not a good area to invest. The key is finding the areas / neighborhoods with strong rental rates that are not saturated with too many LTRs. I would not be too concerned about the STRs because from what I am seeing with the STR owners transitioning to LTR, most of them want to rent it furnished as a LTR and charge more than market rent. The bigger concern is the saturation of existing LTR rentals.

If you are looking at any specific properties and want me to do a rental analysis, feel free to DM me.
  

Yeah that is my concern that there may be too many LTRs in the area. Like I said I live in Miami FL and the properties are so expensive it’s impossible to cash flow anything here. I was thinking of these areas because I visit the Orlando/ Kissimmee area 2 to 3 times a year so I can stop by and check the property conditions. Also the prices of homes seem more reasonable where you may be able to turn some profits.

Post: Long Term Rental Investment

Alexander MirPosted
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Quote from @Edward Dean:

Start checking Zillow, Redfin, etc., for both rentals and sales prices. You can cross reference with rent aggregators like Rentometer.com. Use these numbers to get an idea for which area you will see a better return on to help you focus. Then start reaching out to real estate agents in the area you like with a specific focus on agents that have experience working with investors if you can find one. Finally, start hitting some meetups if you can to pick people's brains, find potential deals, learn what about areas you don't know, etc.

Best of luck!

Thanks for your response, 
Yes I have been looking into areas and researching many different factors. Once it gets closer I will begin looking for good realtors in the areas. 

Post: Long Term Rental Investment

Alexander MirPosted
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Quote from @Ali Nichols:

Have you considered small multi-family opportunities? Generally speaking, the right ones can make great long term holds? 

Thanks for your reply,
I would definitely like to work my way into multi family properties but would like to start with a single family home to get a feel for the business. I would like to start with a property in the 300s. 

Post: Long Term Rental Investment

Alexander MirPosted
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Quote from @John Landskroener:

Short term rental is always a larger gamble with more headaches than a long term rental. There are more moving parts between cleanings, reviews, keeping inventory of a furnished place, bookings, new people every few days, people not understanding the difference between an airbnb and hotel etc. Long term rentals are a for sure thing however you get a bad tenant and you are stuck them for an extended period of time. You are going to get paid every month and not going to have to worry if your place will be booked or not. Property management companies are valuable especially if you are living farther away because they deal with the headaches in any rental. They can help get you a high quality tenant for the most money possible. 

Thank you for your response,
I definitely do not want to deal with the hassle of STR. First of all the market was inflated during COVID when everyone wanted to be in their own space. But now that that madness has mostly ended, I believe most families perfer all the amenities of a nice resort. I think STRs will continue to struggle as we move away from the pandemic. Also the constant in and out of different families probably wears the property much faster than usual, there is much more liability with constantly changing  tenants, and many locals governments are creating ordinances against them. I definitely want to stick to LTRs. About property management I hope to purchase a new or fairly new property and find a good local handyman for small repairs and hopefully some good contractors for any other specific repairs that arise.

Post: Long Term Rental Investment

Alexander MirPosted
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  • Votes 3

Hello Bigger Pockets Community,


I was interested in investing in a long term rental property in the near future, but live in Miami Fl. Where the property values are way too high to invest in. I was looking at the Davenport and Kissimmee areas where you can still buy a brand new house in the low $300k's. I would prefer a brand new or newer home as I would be managing it from Miami and rather not use a management company. I was wondering how the market was for long term rentals in those areas. I see a ton of people talking about STR but nothing about LTR.

Is there good demand for LTRs in these areas?

I noticed Amazon has 5 facilities in Davenport this should help provide renters with pretty solid employment. Any thoughts?

Should I be concerned about all the failed STRs turning to LTRs and flooding the market along with all the new construction?

I am a bit concerned about the quality of the schools in the area as I know that affects families staying long term in an area.

Thank you in advance! 
Alex